Shadows Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 TOPIC IS VERY LONG: TLDR: 1-5 def and 1-20 def scene is looking good. Pure Community, Recently here at Sharkbrew, a new qualification for clans was introduced which would classify pure clans by Defense Caps, instead of Combat Caps like the old systems. This was met with a satisfactory level of positive responses from the community which made some of us pretty optimistic about some changes eventually, even though we knew this would bring no immediate changes. I am not really referring to the SB staff either; I am referring to different people from the community who messaged me about the idea. It was decided that: 1-4 defense clans would be classified as LPCs 1-20 defense clans would be classified as MPCs 1-39 defense (or 1-30+ like slush wrote lmao) would be classified as HPCs. Talking as a member of the Pure Clan Community, I have decided to take my time to analyze some recent changes which have occurred in our community. I am optimistic they will be changes to make the overall game-play better. Our next goal is the improvement of the community and its honor that has been lost. This same topic will be received with posts from people who did not take the time to try and analyze why us, the pure community, have the say to our own future. We as staff of Sharkbrew have been trying our best to communicate with all of the community, enacting our roles as Mediators, Counselors and Administrators to the best of our abilities and disposition of our time. The community must understand though, that no matter what we as Sharkbrew do, the people who have the last say of what happens to our Pure Community are the people in the Community itself. It is up to us as a whole to decide where pure clans head to. Getting back on topic though, Pure Clans and their members have been debating for quite some time if this is where we belong in our Post-EOC era. We all know why we had 30+ defense Pre-EOC (If you didn't it is because the couple of advantages such as Turmoil which actually helped the community a lot), but at this point in time, some point have started to realize that 39 defense is what is killing us pure clans. Why is 39 defense killing clans? First of all, I will explain why in my opinion 30+ defense (34 I think it was) was actually so successful for pure clans in the past. You might agree, you might disagree, this is just my opinion lol. Like I mentioned earlier, Turmoil was a massive step forward for pure clans, along with the extra protection of adamant. But the fact that a lot of people seem to forget, is that us pure clans now had a large amount of these "Turmoil Pures" that started to pop up on P2P 1v1 worlds which we could recruit (Don't remember the Pre-EOC P2P 1v1 worlds). These Turmoil pures saw Pure Clans as something normal since they would wear the same armor and use the same tactics that these 1v1 pures would use for their pking. The people who did not see Turmoil Pures as something common, meaning the regular 1 def pures or 20 def pures (initiate pures if I am not mistaken), regularly chose to join clans who they saw had people common to them. This is why Mayhem Makers, Enemy and PoP were able to mass up such large member bases, since obviously the amount of 1 or 20 defense pures has always been higher than 30-39 def pures. Now moving to Post-EOC, where turmoil is non-existent. Where are the 1v1 PKers to recruit into the community? Are you really expecting to recruit 1 def pures wearing addy armor? As turmoil is not present in the game, people see no reason to why we pure clans have adamant armor. Who can blame them? This is exactly the reason why the LPC and the MPC scene (1-4 def and 1-20 def) are absolutely blowing up right now. Slowly our whole community starts to get duller and duller, with nothing really motivating the people to push through like in other tough times our Community experienced. Only thing that keeps people around this game is because of the good relationships they have made with people throughout the years. To take some examples, EoP members from Pre-EOC meeting up with EoP members from Post-EOC, Zenith members keeping their community tight and forming Doom, TLP members keeping tight and forming Unbreakable. These relationships are what keeps our community alive at the moment, as there is no further motivation for the game anymore. This is why a lot of people just log into RS for trips and log out. I understand that a lot of people simply do not have time to create new accounts, if it was only that easy to max out a completely new account to be part of a new scene. You must understand that this new scene would drastically help your clan's development. For the first time in a VERY long time, there is a big variety of clans all classified under LPC/MPC (For those HPC people who don't know, xLPC/LPC/MPC clans all go out at the same time and fight each other). To put it a bit more bluntly. HPCs: FOE EoP CP Fi Sup Apex Rage xLPCs/LPCs/MPCs (All 1 scene) P2P and F2P may vary: DMK RD Misfits Op CD Terror Fearless SF Invictus Doom SK AAO Envy Strike Team Prestige Unbreakable Some HPCs have even started talks about moving to this 1-4 defense or 1-20 defense scenes where mains are (for the most part) less common. I am not saying they are not there, but they sure are less common as less clans use them. This obviously would be a very long process, but you have to sit down and think, would this really be a negative move for my clan? 16 LPCs vs 8 HPCs, and some of these HPCs have held talks about 1-20 defense. Most of the LPCs listed here, easily pull the same, if not more than HPCs already. So you have a scene of clans with 1-4 def or 1-20 def, who can easily recruit people from either F2P or P2P, pull higher, have longer fights than HPCs usually, and (for the most part) less mains. 1-4 Def and 1-20 Def is basically the better scene, soon people's pride will crack. A lot of HPC clan members are already joining LPCs. This could go 2 ways though, either couple other HPCs move down to the LPC scene, or it remains the same for some time and LPCs start to close then move back to the scene that is 1-39 def. We decide where we go. Best Regard. Break 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exzrts Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 I agree but envy is mpc no? They all 20 deff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Break Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 I agree but envy is mpc no? They all 20 deff Yes, but as you should know because this post states it, xLPC,LPC, and MPC all go out at the same time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick James Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 if u have defence when youre below 88 cb u should neck urself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanicus Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 Scrap the hpc scene completely and have the MPC scene 20 def cap as the highest tier of pure clanning with separate trips to lpcs, no reason to have more than 20 def. The LPC scene is thriving ATM, just gotta finish off that brown sticky stuffty main clan fs to let it fully flourish, hope to see as many people and clans get involved as possible, it's gonna be action packed and fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadows Posted January 24, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 I agree but envy is mpc no? They all 20 deff "xLPCs/LPCs/MPCs (All 1 scene) P2P and F2P may vary: " Official classifications will start out on Febuary. But during a reunion, it was voted that the LPC and MPC clans did not want to split the scene. We offered allowing LPCs to pk at a certain times and MPCs at another, but people wanted it to remain 1 scene. My post is based on that. So this mix of xLPC, LPC and MPC is all 1 scene (as it was voted). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bizo Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 yes exactly create a main clan with all hpcs and start over simple Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 Eliminate the mains in the Lpc scene otherwise there is no point. I'm currently in CP and AAO and have have fun in the lpc scene but I can already see tons of low lvl mains which just cancels out the purpose of the Lpc scene which was to get away from the main infested Hpc scene. IAmAGuyI 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 Also there's literally been 0 preps in lpc so far lol Lpc scene so far in 2k17 - 0 preps, a new low lvl main clan born, what else am I missing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Togo Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 TLDR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exzrts Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 Yes, but as you should know because this post states it, xLPC,LPC, and MPC all go out at the same timeDidn't ask you break. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckz Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 Fuck it and just stay 1 defence in general Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJo Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 yes exactly create a main clan with all hpcs and start over simple This, legit lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJo Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 If i had it my way, i'd completely scrap the HPC scene and have all clans come together and form 1 main clan (as their 39 def accounts will not be usable in 1-5 def pure clanning), and then restart the pure community as 1-5 def (if u chose, idc either way). Personally, i don't want to pure clan in a community where my account is capped at certain levels or combats however some people may like that. TLDR: Restart the pure community if you wish as 1-5 def or whatever cb cap, however turn the HPC scene into a main clan bc the accounts are gonna be useless anyways and i think it could be successful/ very fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
إيزيس سيئة Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 If i had it my way, i'd completely scrap the HPC scene and have all clans come together and form 1 main clan (as their 39 def accounts will not be usable in 1-5 def pure clanning), and then restart the pure community as 1-5 def (if u chose, idc either way). Personally, i don't want to pure clan in a community where my account is capped at certain levels or combats however some people may like that. TLDR: Restart the pure community if you wish as 1-5 def or whatever cb cap, however turn the HPC scene into a main clan bc the accounts are gonna be useless anyways and i think it could be successful/ very fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
33th Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 I agree with jojo, it would bring back alot of ppl that simply quit cause the whole scene is a joke, also would bring new peeps in 1-5 or 1-20 should be the absolute maximum for everyone Inb4 ppl say "its 2k17 lmfao get over it" Yeah right its 2k17 and i feel sorry for the pure community lul Kim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simpler Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 Try as hard as you wish nothing will change though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saucey Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 It's simple, don't be mental and tell your members to mass train 20 def and just have xlpc,lpc, and mpc all go out at the same time for maximum action. I think we have like 4 members with over 5 def, and I don't encourage anyone else to ruin their accounts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steezy Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 All tiers should go out at the same time. The second you split LPC and MPC you'll see brown sticky stuff kids on lvl 70s getting 20 def so they can attend both trips Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Kid Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 YES Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scumtroll69 Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 You can't really blame spineless clan leaders who were never clanning during the glory era though. It's not their fault they never got to experience what clanning is like without adamant and mains. Lord Ex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadows Posted January 24, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 Also there's literally been 0 preps in lpc so far lol Lpc scene so far in 2k17 - 0 preps, a new low lvl main clan born, what else am I missing? Yea sadly LPCs have not been able to agree on combat caps and such, but this is something we are now going to address now and you can see topics popping about this soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whoppa Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 Shadows m8 get that rage lpc outta there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ex Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 Try as hard as you wish nothing will change though. I hope to never come across you in any clan I join. You are simply the most negative person on this site. Each time a post is made furthering the idea of real pure clanning you have the same useless response. We're closer than we were yesterday and the scene is constantly growing..at this point it's all you can ask for, baby steps. OT: things are looking good fs claims the mains will be absent this weekend so we shall see. Keep the conversation going boys, we're closer than ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waifu Pillow Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 Shadows m8 get that rage lpc outta there yeah lol dont try and use our clan to push your agenda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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