Ben Posted October 14, 2018 Report Share Posted October 14, 2018 1 hour ago, JoJo said: I'd like to hear your argument as to why the "quality and competition" was better in pre-eoc when everyone was 14 years old and literally did not know how to even call scim pushes back then lol. I guess it's down to opinion but the reason why I believe that's the case, is that those pre-eoc needed to adapt to a number of updates that completely changed the game/clanning landscape (dung, summoning, turmoil, clan capes, kdr trackers) and this created new challenges that they needed to overcome. This hasn't necessarily been the case in OSRS where Jagex refrain from these drastic updates to keep things consistent, so although new guys in the community may be better at what they do now - they haven't had to drastically mix things up or adapt to change. ie. People knew how to call scim pushes back them but had to pick their moments. They didn't have the stats that people had nowadays, so had to rely on holding territory and picking people off to gain a numerical advantage to actually find the chance to push. This did change when bots became widely available and almost everyone had maxed pures - Jagex also introduced corrupt weapons into F2P which meant that melee was even more useful against 20/30 defence armours and that's when clans started to push more. However, from what I've seen clanning strategy in the last 5 years or so, hasn't changed too much (especially in f2p), people have only really hidden behind return spots when things aren't going their way, rather than mixing strategies up. Let me know if you think different. It's no surprise that even in the 'legacy' clans today, people will always highlight their best leaders as those from pre-eoc (Walli/Goop/Solo/Drunk - let alone Speshls/13th). However, that isn't to say that good leaders haven't had to do the same in OSRS (just those recognised in OSRS probably played pre-eoc too, example Adhi, I guess you could now put Titans/Zo on that list if needed). JoJo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lionel Posted October 14, 2018 Report Share Posted October 14, 2018 not much has changed, been so many of these topics already. The big 6 are the only ones worth mentioning, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nawe Posted October 14, 2018 Report Share Posted October 14, 2018 we main klen now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Neutron Posted October 14, 2018 Report Share Posted October 14, 2018 15 hours ago, Goat Elmir said: Today’s days of clanning consist of gaining a rival and reducing to boycott them of any preps/action. The scene is disgusting and will slowly die down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxx Posted October 14, 2018 Report Share Posted October 14, 2018 MM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lime Posted October 14, 2018 Report Share Posted October 14, 2018 16 hours ago, Noise said: Only thing i can say , MM is/was the best pure clan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terror Spokesman Posted October 14, 2018 Report Share Posted October 14, 2018 Mm,foe,eop, Nothing will ever change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotguy Posted October 14, 2018 Report Share Posted October 14, 2018 10 hours ago, JoJo said: I'd like to hear your argument as to why the "quality and competition" was better in pre-eoc when everyone was 14 years old and literally did not know how to even call scim pushes back then lol. exactly lmao, niggas were braindead back then and just trash in general Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotguy Posted October 14, 2018 Report Share Posted October 14, 2018 9 hours ago, Ben said: I guess it's down to opinion but the reason why I believe that's the case, is that those pre-eoc needed to adapt to a number of updates that completely changed the game/clanning landscape (dung, summoning, turmoil, clan capes, kdr trackers) and this created new challenges that they needed to overcome. This hasn't necessarily been the case in OSRS where Jagex refrain from these drastic updates to keep things consistent, so although new guys in the community may be better at what they do now - they haven't had to drastically mix things up or adapt to change. ie. People knew how to call scim pushes back them but had to pick their moments. They didn't have the stats that people had nowadays, so had to rely on holding territory and picking people off to gain a numerical advantage to actually find the chance to push. This did change when bots became widely available and almost everyone had maxed pures - Jagex also introduced corrupt weapons into F2P which meant that melee was even more useful against 20/30 defence armours and that's when clans started to push more. However, from what I've seen clanning strategy in the last 5 years or so, hasn't changed too much (especially in f2p), people have only really hidden behind return spots when things aren't going their way, rather than mixing strategies up. Let me know if you think different. It's no surprise that even in the 'legacy' clans today, people will always highlight their best leaders as those from pre-eoc (Walli/Goop/Solo/Drunk - let alone Speshls/13th). However, that isn't to say that good leaders haven't had to do the same in OSRS (just those recognised in OSRS probably played pre-eoc too, example Adhi, I guess you could now put Titans/Zo on that list if needed). ppl were so trash back then niga just go watch the vids and compare it to today's vids Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBean Posted October 15, 2018 Report Share Posted October 15, 2018 MM,Foe,TLP,Eop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggers Posted October 15, 2018 Report Share Posted October 15, 2018 Clan rankings don't matter beyond nostalgia. MM + FOE will always stay at the top with EOP/FI >> TLP as closest. But people can't deny it's much harder now to be the #1 clan as meta will always spread and become more widespread. Clan wars now is a much higher peak than what strategies were back then...since weekends are massive clusters with no clean 1v1 clan fights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N uts ack Posted October 15, 2018 Report Share Posted October 15, 2018 MM most dominant for their entirety of being open Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simpler Posted October 16, 2018 Report Share Posted October 16, 2018 Mm/Foe/Eop Cp/Fi/Tlp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAmAGuyI Posted October 16, 2018 Report Share Posted October 16, 2018 On 10/14/2018 at 6:45 AM, Enza said: 1.) envy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ebag Posted October 17, 2018 Report Share Posted October 17, 2018 On 10/14/2018 at 3:45 AM, Enza said: 1.) envy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Goop Posted October 18, 2018 Report Share Posted October 18, 2018 eop this is my biased opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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