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You seem unfamiliar with the a concept of runescape clan (which is understandable because you seem rather dull). Runescape clans, since they are not physical entities, are almost entirely symbolic. A clan is its brand. The value judgements made about pixels swirling around (read: warring) is symbolic. If two clans fought, and were not aware each was fighting another clan, it would be ephemeral in the context of the clanning community. This is why when two members from opposing clans fight 1v1 in single combat the value the clanning community ascribes to their constituencies is not at play. It is only when we apply this symbolic unity, a clan, that anything of a higher order can occur. When Intense Redemption was internally betrayed by Enigma it set off an factional struggle within our clan. This internal struggle lead to us reconquering lost territory and claiming, by right of conquest, all that would have been rightfully ours if our traitors had not deserted us. When Enigma was closed by us, and its constituencies returned to us, we inherited all forms of value they accrued. The most valuable asset they had was in the symbolic realm and we acted accordingly by assimilating their logo of desertion as a flag of victory. It not only shows a lack of creativity, when a foreign clan tries to assume the most important elements of other clans, but also a lack of respect for past clan conflicts. If clans knew the first thing about propaganda development or public relations they would engage more carefully. Seeing as this forum is full of 13-year-olds, we doubt these impressions will take root.