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50 minutes ago, When 39 def said:

Maybe over 30 def is a stretch, but i think 1-30 is logical. From what i've seen, the current scene is essentially 1-25. A maxed 25 def is 107 cb, whereas a max 30 def is 108. Imo, that 1 cb lvl isnt making a huge difference. Once you start seeing 39 def (111 cb), thats excessive and should be considered a main at that point. I think that 108 is solid threshold of pure cb lvl because once you hit 110 you're past the level of a max 75 atk med lvl. But when defining what is "pure" and what is not, you have to establish the criteria: either its agreed that "pure" is 1-5 def (5 max for fuck ups), or "pure" is any account that is limited for a legitimate purpose and/or extra dps output, but that is under 40 def. 

Upgrades (DPS, not including armor) at each "pure" stage. Lets assume for arguments sake 60 atk/52 prayer:

10 def (85 cb): xerician, hard leather body, black defender, slayer helm; 13 def (86 cb): addy gloves; 20 def (87 cb): mystics, mith defender; 25 def (89 cb): frog-leather, infinity; 30 def (90 cb): snakeskin, 3rd age mage, addy defender; 35 def (91 cb): rune gloves, heavy balli/d mace (depending on route).

If you're believer a "pure" is based on best DPS per cb lvl, then the scene should be 1-10 def. If you define pure as a limited account with legitimate DPS upgrades for the cb levels, then theres really no reason that should not include 30 defence. According to this, 13 is bad, as well as 25. For 13 you get addy gloves, but they dont provide an extra max hit. For 25, you get infinity which is seldom used and frog-leather, which does offer added DPS, but its negligible, for 2 cb lvls, which is pretty nuts for only those upgrades. So if you agree that 25 is pure, how come not 30? For 1 added combat level you get 3 DPS upgrades (which are significantly more useful than the 25 def upgrades), whereas when you decide on 25 instead of 20, you get 2 added cb lvls for only 2. By this logic, 13 and 25 def shouldn't be considered pure, because its added cb levels for minimal DPS upgrades, whereas 10, 20 and 30 offer significant upgrades (if you look at 10 to 20, excluding 13, you get addy gloves in addition to mith defender and mystics). 35 would max at 110 cb, which imo once you're past the level of a potential max med you need to accept that its no longer in the pure realm.

Furthermore, addy armor is much closer to mithril, than mithril is to iron:

iron plate: +21 (stab), +12 (slash), +20 (crush), +20 (range); mith plate: +46, +44, +48, +44; addy plate: +65, +63, +55, +63 (all of these give -6 mage def)

iron to mith is +25, +22, +28, +24; whereas mith to addy is +19, +19, +7, +19. So, if you believe that 1-25 is pure, but not 1-30 and one of your arguments is that addy is too strong, you're stupid. Mith is signficantly stronger than iron, than addy is to mith. 

Either the scene should be 1-5, or 1-30. This is my view, prove me wrong. And if you just say "addy is brocollied" or shit like that, its because you know you're wrong and cant argue the facts. Sit 

dam. these are facts 

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3 hours ago, Nos said:

You may as well go main if you're thinking of going 30 def. 

Yea I’ve opted out of 30 def indefinitely, agree that it’s way too high.

im wondering what the deal with 25 def is? Why do some clans accept 1-20 but not 25? And why is 25 a thing?

the only upgrades I’ve seen for it are infinity (which most wouldn’t use in pvp and isn’t allowed in most clwars fights) and frog-leather which is a decent upgrade from studded, but actually worth the cb lvl?

[25-30 Def]

9 hours ago, S o s a said:

nice dude im maxed 106 combat and I enjoy my account lol except in rev caves but I don't even go to rev caves =\ I have basically every item that 20 def can get in game except the staff from myqure quest

That’s sick. But yea revs would be aids at that cb with 20 def. 

do you still play on it/pk? Or is it purely for clanning

[25-30 Def]

gross/disgusting if you dislike more content/better gear while still being able to pure clan 

[25-30 Def]

7 hours ago, POWER FLOWER said:

onslaught is a small clan and has a few 25 defence and a couple of 30def units man add me on discord flower#6217 https://www.sharkbrew.com/community/index.php?/topic/47708-onslaught-1-p2p-pure-clan/

Hey brother, the clan looks cool. What’s the average cb lvl?

[25-30 Def]

6 hours ago, bulldozer44 said:

30 def will make a comeback

Is this based on hopes or real community talk about it?

[25-30 Def]

1 hour ago, S o s a said:

30 def is useless 20 def metaaaaaa

I’m 20 def right now and it’s a great build. Just want as much content as possible while still being able to pure clan because I only have the 1 account. Also infinity is sexy af

at 75att/70pray 20 def I’ll max 95 cb - 25 def max 96cb - and 30 def max 97 cb

[25-30 Def]

Considering going 25-30 defense. Good benefits and unique builds. Thoughts?

also, any clans or smaller teams still accept 25-30 def accounts?