Kim

I think this point of view should be expressed more often so the scene can shift away from the current problem. Thanks for your input

A problem that has been brought up by people who may not want move down. The idea of main clans or even fellow pure clans create 88cb tanks if they moved down.

Being told to cry in 2k21.

Its a good point to make that clanning system will come out at some point this year or the next. But, I am not sure if it'll be easy to recruit once entirely new people see how main invested the scene is. There hasn't been a new clan to open in months within the "LPC" scene. The more activity may be in another bracket of clanning.

give him some time to reply, if not you're just derailing the topic lol

Its been a constant cycle over the years where clans used that excuse. The only disappointing part, whenever clans weren't doing so well, they were able to fight clans of their quality. It seems now that option may not be available or the fear of losing is far too great due to implications of what it can do to a core.

I am not going to be baited by you especially when you like a audio clip that had to do nothing with me. lmao.

Sorry, I am just getting back home now. I appreciate the realism that you have shared within your forum post. I hope for the sake of the community, if it takes closing clans to get shed this awful coat, may it be sooner than later. Problem is with clans apologizing, nobody does this publicly whatsoever. The times its happened, its always been in small channels when everyone has been doxxed within the situation or something worse. I have had those issues within my own clan where members won't forgive for the same reasons. Its always been tricky on the aspect of negotiating with FOE as people such as @Murd@Godfatherprobably remember from back then. I don't think we had any apex or zenith members contribute to this topic at all?? In terms of the three clans avoiding action, it could be two things. They may not want to lose you guys in clan wars or the "reasoning" of bringing mains. The CWA scene has been slowly crumbling since 2019. Its been so sad to see as an outsider and as a rank. Its an ego issue. The formula you mentioned has been a repeat cycle.

From what I have been told, after I retired in Autumn of 2020, it got worse in where EVERY CLAN started to bring mains. It "seems" better now that a few have dropped theirs. I am not surprised at all but its a point to highlight that the scene can die out. As it has twice before. Its up to members of clans to continue discussing this on a public forums. I am not active within the pure community to be able to say "I am crying." It does not affect me whatsoever. I only feel so bad for the pure community on how far gone its got and if I could help bring some sort of unity for Jagex to consider our pure scene as a good option to include for Jcup..I don't mind having to bring up the discussion once again as I did in the past.

Supremacy was not the first clan to bring mains. Not at all. The legacy clans were first to bring mains. Supremacy just couldn't stomach dropping their mains(2-3 mains back in HPC) since they were oldschool members at the time. Majority of the time aside from my last cycle of being a rank, I have stepped away from the clan and went off to do my own thing. I don't enjoy fighting as a main or being apart of main fights(when its suppose be pure vs pure.) I have hid posts on this topic on particular as they weren't productive to the topic at all. Their were logs of my interaction with Rage leadership. Its so weird hearing Hebi on the audio clip. That isn't my voice, that is Ashley's voice. I wasn't active at all during the rage rivalry aside for three weeks because my friends wanted to take part in pure trips again and wanted me to attend along. Other than that, there has been audio clips during trips where I have told leadership not to be homophobic or to stop using racist jokes. Going back on task, I am not innocent. I have never said I was. The point of this discussion topic was to stimulate some sort of discussion. The pure community needs it. This is the worse its ever been.

I have no connections to the pure community to be able to place blame on anyone. When I used to make these topics back in the day, it was for every member to have a discussion with their peers + leaderships. This applies now as readings and skimming images, the scene seems so cancer. As said on the topic, I have been inactive within the scene and know nothing of what you speak. If you were able to elaborate, that would be great.

yup

You are also forgetting that from the start of all of this all. Foe did get camped by ROT for months until they slumped ultimately.(although they lied about not having their rank in a rival clan.) The timeline is seems to be one that aligns to what happened to foe. In where nobody helped the respective clan against the main clan. I don't think anyone thought that the scene would get to this degree to begin with. Do you think by you guys being camped by these main clans, it affects the other pure clans' action? Back then, it would affect pure clans as it would be less action since nobody wanted to fight mains that pure clans brought. I don't know much about the current rivalries or how the rivalries got sour. Your clarification of still bringing mains is something I could understand as my own pure clan had to do that against 3 pure clans allied against us and one brought a ton of mains on us. Do you think a pure alliance wouldn't be possible at this stage? Your comment talks more of back then than the present in terms of this question.

I would normally hide this type of comments. But pure clan members need to see the toxicity. lol

Most clans back in the day, they pulled really low on weekends and even cwa events. I think the most they did pull in terms of cwa was 35v3s and it was rare. In terms of wilderness, I think the highest pulling clans was 43 excluding mains. It sounds like the scene will have to die a lot more for leaderships to compromise with each other. That is unfortunate.

Yeah, this was a salespoint back in the day for many of the newer clans. It would be good for the community.

The portion of avoiding preps has always been a problem within the community. In terms of main clans involving themselves within the pure community. Do you think a pure alliance would solve this issue?

Jagex won't ever take control with how bad this pure community looks lol

Sounding a lot like the eop of 2021 lol. The topic is about if the mains themselves are killing the community.

thats what they said back then until the scene almost died lol

Do you think members of every respective clan would advocate against it? When we did the reset originally, nobody had the idea to make the 88 cb tanks. Since, we all felt the scene die out as there was only four clans alive.

As someone who retired in Autumn 2020, it seems the main infestation is the worse, its ever been in all of the years of OSRS. Do you guys think this will lead to the end of pure community for once and for all? Or, do you think this is just temporary and it will passover? In all of my years of being apart of the pure community. I will say this is the first time where I see using mains has been normalized 100%. Poll is anonymous

Thanks for the fight, wl~

we are so good