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  8. Regarding Conquest

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    4 minutes ago, slushpuppeh said:

    Amass users first through expenses then profit from them later. Ever heard of this business strategy? Uber? Food Panda? etc?

    Driving for better community isn't just simply throwing 30m for 30 pures to fuck around at duel arena.

    Yes obviously - if it was the case but still I believe that he is genuine guy with no bad intentions. If he has then I'm wrong and you are very right. 

    I mean it kinda worked. At the 6v6 tourny there were brids from the nh cup hosted by them - who became interested in clanning.

  9. Regarding Conquest

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    Just now, slushpuppeh said:

    Sure, that would be a sustainable ecosystem, but seriously stop being naive about the whole non profit thing. Let me refer you to this link:

    https://help.twitch.tv/customer/en/portal/articles/2812403-how-to-subscribe

    He has plenty of monetization options available to them when the time comes.

     

    He indeed does - and like I said before my arguing is based on the fact that I truly believe he is doing this for the sake of community like you've praised you do.

     I also tried to make it very clear I know that hosting doesen't make you big buck, but still you are not losing money from your own pockets like Conquest is. To be honest I don't believe that they can sustain as they are just dishing money out. But for the time its happening - it was a damn good tournament and I would wish more participants to it. 

     

    But still my main point - if we all are driving for the better community like we all say. Why didn't you let him post in the first place, as it's not like sharkbrew and if it were to become one it's not like it hard to remove their topics then.

  11. Regarding Conquest

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    Just now, slushpuppeh said:

    Sharkbrew doesn't have any sort of twitch presence and we planned to utilize his network to build publicity for the upcoming RvB.

    So you planned to "use" him like you said he was using you. Yes it would build publicity for the upcoming RvB, but also boost your profits. Him "using" your site boosts the amount of players attending his events for the community. 

    When they "use" you - Conquest loses, community wins.

    When you "use" Conquest, Sharkbrew wins, community wins.

  12. Regarding Conquest

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    2 minutes ago, slushpuppeh said:

    We were more than happy to help them out for free until they used us. Whether they are making profit or trying to steal my users is irrelevant. We entered into an agreement on good faith but they broke the agreement.

    And look at the laughable amount of profit i am making from sharkbrew hahaahah

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    They are not stealing your users. Extra activity ain't bad lol, if it was something like sharkbrew I would get you, but at this point it feels just cauliflower. 

    Also the amount that you are making is really irrelevant as you are making some + that is only Google Adsense - not Pservers/gold sellers which pay in bulk. But it is not the point - as you are still making some. Like I am with gfx.

    And obviously it is your site and you can run it how ever you want but just seems really hypocrite to me to ride with "making the community better" and then not letting private non-profit event host advertise his events. 

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    Obviously my arguing depends on the fact that he is speaking the truth here.

  13. Regarding Conquest

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    1 minute ago, Kim said:

    There would have always been a mutual agreement on terms of advertisement. No fees or deposits. You really have to re-read the logs and follow the timestamps.  

    Yes I've read them etc

    I still don't get why would you honestly even NEED them to advertise for you - they offered it first which is nice of them. But if your mission is to make the scene better - why don't you let a man, who is giving money from his own pocket to the community not let advertise? Without YOU - not the community getting something in return?

  14. Regarding Conquest

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    4 minutes ago, Kim said:

    You have to bare in mind, we haven't always had a bunch of sponsors. When we did,  we used to give out payouts on systems. Our expenses aren't solely keeping the website up but other things such as protection.  Until recently, we've got a good amount of ads to coin around our own events and systems. I am suppose to be making this topic a bit later today. (Which I'm excited to make since its going to include other info.) 

    You have to look at the timestamps. Originally, there was no suppose any sort of payment aside from advertising Sharkbrew during their livestream.  Re-reading slushpuppy's topic, he did include this piece of info -_-

    What if there were no stream? They would have to pay more or compensate in some other way?

  16. Regarding Conquest

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    5 minutes ago, Kim said:

    You have to coin in that some of our expenses have gone into the actual hosting of the website. Brew is Louis on the forums. The three of us had a misunderstanding on how the agreement was suppose to go. You wouldn't have to pay us to post the topic whatsoever. But, you'd have to talk to us in some sort of way if it may take away a bit from our current event.

    Obvs they do, and I'm quite sure adds pay you way more than hosting takes.

    I wouldn't have to pay buy Conquest would have to give a loan and have huge ass logos on stream? What if there were no stream? They would have to pay more or compensate in some other way?

  18. Regarding Conquest

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    I didn't have time yet to read all the logs but here is my input:

    From what I know, Conquest is running their events non-profit - Sharkbrew Isn't, not from events, but in general. You are making a buck.

    If Sharkbrew's mission is truly to enhance the pure clanning scene why would you need a fee from Event hoster to advertise their events? If i were to host a private miniwar cup, would i have to pay you 50m to post the topic? 

    Kinda same thing how your mods asked me to pay a fee for them to solve some scamming issues, it's a goddamn community. And if things still are like they are, aren't the "Head" mods getting paid for their work already?

  25. Tried something new, banner

    in Media & GFX

    Posted

    On 12/3/2017 at 1:28 AM, Wekmor said:

    Thanks everybody :lol:

     

    Thanks, I couldn't find a good gif that I liked so I just overlayed a bunch of clouds, but yeah I agree if it was a loop it would be cooler

    Trick i use quite often is making the gif run two times and the second is backwards so it doesent cut at any point

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