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Fire strike wars seem too long tbh, could do fire blast wars with overs on or king of the hill.

My honest opinion for most successfully ran trips over all consisting action wise:
 
S- seriously considering their pull/cbs then tend to get a lot more action than a lot of clans, seems like they always have fun
Eop- they have a good pull and get a lot of hits... not my thing going out with 80 to crash smaller clans but then again unless someone starts pulling higher what else are they going to do?
Rd- im in rd and as an elder i can kinda see whats going on were doing well, obviously on a site where the ranks dont post our event aftermaths anymore i can understand why you may disagree
Zu- as i said im going to keep this completely unbias for their pull they are actually doing very well on getting action even if they lose at least they are fighting
Fi/cp-cp second highest pull, still is at mossies alot. I just dont like the way they lead their clan (very hesitate) but you know its working for them so who am i to say... fi has dropped in pulls, the way they were pulling high for so long they probably forgot whatto do when you dont pull high... sure they will figure it out tho they are pretty solid

Yes, I've also played long enough to realise that when the community is as imbalanced as it is now, with the crashed clan pulling almost double the options of everyone else - it's very rare that a clan will go to single and regroup.
 
If EOP crash a fight between ZU/FI for example, both clans will run to single, get a regroup and wait for EOP to be hit by someone so they can re-hit it and actually do some damage. If EOP has 80, and every other clan has high 40's, there isn't another clan that's going to run into EOP to spark this 'cluster.' Perhaps CP will do that mossies bullbrown sticky stuff, but it will eventually end up being a fight littered with mains and when you do the same thing, the inevitable "go multi" spams lol.
 
It was the same when MM and FI (for the first half of 2014) pulled head and shoulders above everyone else.
 
I wish, as you said, there were other options and clans realise that if they worked together and formed clusters, it could actually be very fun. However, there's too much distrust and hatred between clans at the moment to make that actually work. Also you get ridiculed if you're on friendly terms with another clan as it becomes some kind of 'alliance.' 

yeah dude you only care about midweek prep aftermaths because you actually occasionally win them.
 
But you don't care about weekend aftermaths because they are 100% bullbrown sticky stuff and rarely even have a vid with them, you just post them on your own forums to convince your +1 retards that you aren't slumping, but know if you posted them on here you'd be a laughing stock.
 
Don't see any other reason you would post ALL of your prep wins on here but NEVER post any trip topics =p =p =p
 
GJ GUYS!

I agree traditional preps are probably the best choice, but that doesn't mean other type of events should be neglected completely
 
Especially if there are people who enjoy variety, the same fights and rules against the same couple of clans can get quite stale.. I know it did for me back when I was playing a couple of months ago.
 
I would've loved to have experienced some of those other types of events again, the 2v2s, a minute-capped PKRI, 20 defence preps, and so on

I could see Foe opening up and matching EoP's pulls from the start (In F2P, I expect them to dominate P2P)
 
Seeing as Foe and EoP have had a good relationship after their rivalry in 09/early '10, I don't think either clan would take kindly to MPCs crashing them if they do have, say, 80v80 fights in F2P
 
Unlike previous fights for #1 where both clans would prefer to run or claim they were being teamed against, It wouldn't surprise me if Foe/Eop teach those MPC crashing clans a lesson to keep them away from crashing the big guys
 
Sort of like fights for #1 in previous years.. even if clans knew where they were fighting, they wouldn't go crash it since it would just bite them in the ass afterwards so instead some would AC (I remember doing this a couple of times for Foe/Mm in EoP)
 
These days clans like RD choose to crash it... if they choose to do that with Foe/Eop, I think they'll see a different result, and rightfully so.

Literally 

nananan we didn't m8
 
we were just restin our fingers from all that clickin we did pwning u

This isn't turning into an EoP vs FOE thread because some kid that joined foe like a month before they closed is talking brown sticky stuff, our two clans have always been on decent terms with each other and I doubt FOE's ranks think of Chirrp as anything more than +3 opts.

This is a lie. I've already explained this on another topic, not sure what you're getting with this revisionist history... EoP & Control were never "rivals" as you're making it seem to be with these posts. Both clans for the most part had a neutral relationship, besides the Mr Ko X & the bitching in wilderness/fight pits preps. Not sure how you can make such ridiculous statements like this
 
if EoP weren't relevant at the time, then what makes you think a clan that went out once a week and weren't even top 3 in that server in regards to the wilderness, were any relevant themselves?

This is a lie. I've already explained this on another topic, not sure what you're getting with this revisionist history... EoP & Control were never "rivals" as you're making it seem to be with these posts. Both clans for the most part had a neutral relationship, besides the Mr Ko X & the bitching in wilderness/fight pits preps. Not sure how you can make such ridiculous statements like this
 
if EoP weren't relevant at the time, then what makes you think a clan that went out once a week and weren't even top 3 in that server in regards to the wilderness, were any relevant themselves?

It's over, we're slumped.

What's with all this revisionist history by ex-ct people?
 
EoP's 2014 isn't as bad as you make it seem to be.
 
You have to remember clans like Cp/EoP have ALWAYS been F2P based clans.. the fact they were able to compete and have fights with Control who were a heavily based P2P clan in 2014 most Sundays, should probably tell you Control weren't all that special in the wilderness. The same can't be said for Control in F2P, who almost completely abandoned that server besides having a few F2P preps (mostly with Rd if I recall, where it'd turn into non stop bitching about what clan broke the rules)
 
The only real bad month for EoP from a wilderness stand point, was when the rank team was Rebel and an inactive Cronic because everyone had left/gone inactive.
 
Even then, EoP's worst pull to an official event was probably in the mid-late (?) 20s during this time.. which didn't last longer than 2 weeks before they were pulling good enough numbers to compete again with the rest of the MPCs (Hazard, Zenith, Ctrl, Cp, Rd, etc) EoP never once pulled 8 to the wilderness in 2014.
 
They had a better year than Control though, that's for sure.

Saying Control beat EoP consistently in F2P isn't true. In the 6-7 months of 2014 that Control was open for, both clans only had 3 preps in F2P... Eop won the first two in the wilderness
 


 
Control won the last one in CWA.
 
I never hated or disliked Control, so when I say they weren't anything special in the wilderness, I'm not really saying it to insult them. Beating up on EoP/Cp in P2P, two historically mediocre P2P clans isn't really an accomplishment, even less when the clan was like 90% P2P based. They at least gave you some competition, while CT weren't able to do the same in F2P
 
 
 
 
Oct 13, 2013 - Uploaded by FatalityCinema
 
I'm strictly talking about the year 2014.
 
 
 
It's all subjective really..
 
Ct clearly had the better half year in P2P - but I can argue EoP had a much better peak (when Control was open) in F2P, pulling 50s/60s/70s early in the year when they were beefing with Sv/Cp and could occasionally give a 2014 peak Fatality some fights in F2P, and also being the more balanced clan in both servers up to that point
 
Control never really 'slammed' EoP as much as you're making it seem either. EoP spent most of the year beefing with Sv/Cp in the beginning, and later on Hazard. I don't think Eop fought Ctrl/Rd as much as they did their rivals
 
 
I don't think I've mentioned EoP having a better 2014 than Fi so I can't comment on that.
 
That losing streak was pretty funny and embarrassing, and while I'm not trying to make excuses, when looking into the context of that losing streak it doesn't really seem as bad.
 
F2p/P2P preps vs Rd (Lost in F2P, won the only matched round against Rd in P2P)
P2P/F2P preps vs Control (very close 1-2 in F2P, lost in P2P)
F2p prep vs Sovereign (very close 1-2)
 
Every other prep loss were to Fi/Foe... who at the time were like 2 leagues above us

What's with all this revisionist history by ex-ct people?
 
EoP's 2014 isn't as bad as you make it seem to be.
 
You have to remember clans like Cp/EoP have ALWAYS been F2P based clans.. the fact they were able to compete and have fights with Control who were a heavily based P2P clan in 2014 most Sundays, should probably tell you Control weren't all that special in the wilderness. The same can't be said for Control in F2P, who almost completely abandoned that server besides having a few F2P preps (mostly with Rd if I recall, where it'd turn into non stop bitching about what clan broke the rules)
 
The only real bad month for EoP from a wilderness stand point, was when the rank team was Rebel and an inactive Cronic because everyone had left/gone inactive.
 
Even then, EoP's worst pull to an official event was probably in the mid-late (?) 20s during this time.. which didn't last longer than 2 weeks before they were pulling good enough numbers to compete again with the rest of the MPCs (Hazard, Zenith, Ctrl, Cp, Rd, etc) EoP never once pulled 8 to the wilderness in 2014.
 
They had a better year than Control though, that's for sure.

What's with all this revisionist history by ex-ct people?
 
EoP's 2014 isn't as bad as you make it seem to be.
 
You have to remember clans like Cp/EoP have ALWAYS been F2P based clans.. the fact they were able to compete and have fights with Control who were a heavily based P2P clan in 2014 most Sundays, should probably tell you Control weren't all that special in the wilderness. The same can't be said for Control in F2P, who almost completely abandoned that server besides having a few F2P preps (mostly with Rd if I recall, where it'd turn into non stop bitching about what clan broke the rules)
 
The only real bad month for EoP from a wilderness stand point, was when the rank team was Rebel and an inactive Cronic because everyone had left/gone inactive.
 
Even then, EoP's worst pull to an official event was probably in the mid-late (?) 20s during this time.. which didn't last longer than 2 weeks before they were pulling good enough numbers to compete again with the rest of the MPCs (Hazard, Zenith, Ctrl, Cp, Rd, etc) EoP never once pulled 8 to the wilderness in 2014.
 
They had a better year than Control though, that's for sure.

What's with all this revisionist history by ex-ct people?
 
EoP's 2014 isn't as bad as you make it seem to be.
 
You have to remember clans like Cp/EoP have ALWAYS been F2P based clans.. the fact they were able to compete and have fights with Control who were a heavily based P2P clan in 2014 most Sundays, should probably tell you Control weren't all that special in the wilderness. The same can't be said for Control in F2P, who almost completely abandoned that server besides having a few F2P preps (mostly with Rd if I recall, where it'd turn into non stop bitching about what clan broke the rules)
 
The only real bad month for EoP from a wilderness stand point, was when the rank team was Rebel and an inactive Cronic because everyone had left/gone inactive.
 
Even then, EoP's worst pull to an official event was probably in the mid-late (?) 20s during this time.. which didn't last longer than 2 weeks before they were pulling good enough numbers to compete again with the rest of the MPCs (Hazard, Zenith, Ctrl, Cp, Rd, etc) EoP never once pulled 8 to the wilderness in 2014.
 
They had a better year than Control though, that's for sure.

Nice how you catch Fi not being on there, but not CP. 
 
I agree that the list is a little off, Epidemic being #2 overall is definitely unrealistic. Still, as a former rank, your comments make me feel like defending Epidemic here. We never exhausted ourselves, nor did we close because of this assumed exhaustion. Our leaders had other commitments and couldn't continue. Bob/IVP/Jibs/Plode's shoes are a little too big to fill, as they kind of represent Epidemic, so leadership wasn't handed down. Ambitions of taking #1 were accomplished, so closure was the choice they made. 
 
1. Mm
2. Foe
3. Eop
4. Fi
5. Epidemic/TLP
6. ^
7. CP
8. TH
9. DP
10. IR
11. NME
12. Control
13. Zenith
14. Dv
15. Malice - Because I like 'em
 
I do place a bit more importance upon F2p here, which is why the other well known MPCs like Carnage/NPO/Havok/CPR are not really listed. I don't know much about them. It's been a while, as I haven't been paying attention to runescape since NME was alive. Even though I hold F2p above P2p, I have a great respect for TLP and their leadership.

If EoP were truly the most unsuccessful clan on 2007, they wouldn't have been open this long. At the very least, they've still managed to remain competitive in the MPC scene back when Fatality was doing the same thing you're trying to discredit EoP for doing right now - out pulling their opponents by a good amount in the wilderness.
 
All these other clans closing in the summer weren't even great in F2P. If your argument was about P2P, you'd be correct. Foe were the only real quality clan that closed in the summer. Control/Sovereign didn't do or barely had any impact in F2P, RD were more or less what they are now, Hazard/Zenith were complete busts, and CP could occasionally compete with Fatality every now and then (just like EoP/Rd could, at times and sometimes FOE) but would mostly do so doing that potato masher mossies brown sticky stuff.
 
This ridiculous 30 minute/week long prep excuse thing is completely irrelevant.
 
It's also fascinating people continue to ignore the previous fights that were much closer in opts, and instead make it seem to be like if EoP have only been capable of beating Fatality because of pulls ever since the rivalry had heated up

If EoP were truly the most unsuccessful clan on 2007, they wouldn't have been open this long. At the very least, they've still managed to remain competitive in the MPC scene back when Fatality was doing the same thing you're trying to discredit EoP for doing right now - out pulling their opponents by a good amount in the wilderness.
 
All these other clans closing in the summer weren't even great in F2P. If your argument was about P2P, you'd be correct. Foe were the only real quality clan that closed in the summer. Control/Sovereign didn't do or barely had any impact in F2P, RD were more or less what they are now, Hazard/Zenith were complete busts, and CP could occasionally compete with Fatality every now and then (just like EoP/Rd could, at times and sometimes FOE) but would mostly do so doing that potato masher mossies brown sticky stuff.
 
This ridiculous 30 minute/week long prep excuse thing is completely irrelevant.
 
It's also fascinating people continue to ignore the previous fights that were much closer in opts, and instead make it seem to be like if EoP have only been capable of beating Fatality because of pulls ever since the rivalry had heated up

Potential and actually doing it is completely different though. 
 
Could rate so many clans that seeped quality in a certain server high 'if' they pulled more. TLP being a prime example. Even though they're ranked so highly, they could have easily have been up there with FOE/MM if they had the pulls as consistently. 

Really neither did CP. Both Eop/Cp were wildly inconsistent throughout 2014. Same with Foe - but really only in F2P
 
Moving to LPC times was actually the best thing EoP/Fi did, not only for themselves but for the pure community. It exposed CP's reliance on multi clanners (or invites... again...), and made everything more competitive than before.

Can't really put RD in that tier with Fatality... especially if going by the last 2 p2p preps they had 3-4 weeks ago, Fi won both pretty convincingly.
 
Rd/EoP/Zu seem to be in that second tier together... Maybe SKO but I haven't seen them apart from a few ~15v15 wars

Really neither did CP. Both Eop/Cp were wildly inconsistent throughout 2014. Same with Foe - but really only in F2P
 
Moving to LPC times was actually the best thing EoP/Fi did, not only for themselves but for the pure community. It exposed CP's reliance on multi clanners (or invites... again...), and made everything more competitive than before.

I agree with you pins.
 
It came down to CP/FI/EOP...
 
Looked like there was no hope left for the pure scene but those LPC's put work in. Really brought the fun back for me, and I'm sure tons of others. More specifically when EOP made the move to LPC times and CP/FI followed. Thats where the fun started back up again.