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If you add the 2011 Fi vs Ctrl full out for Fatality, then do the same for EoP against Ir/Dp in 2009, iirc Few things to consider EoP have never officially faced Mm in a full out They've only faced Foe two times (2012, 2016) Fatality have beaten the above, but have lost in 2008, 2009, 2013, 2014 to Foe/Mm as well... A couple times as the "superior" clan at the moment of the war, the same can't be said about EoP and their losses to Foe. Context...

Clans preform differently in low/mid/high opt fights... Some clans can be really good at 20v20 & 30v30 fights but lose a 75v75 to the same clan That's been my view on it from my experiences when I played

3rd year in a row Fatality loses and will proceed to cry to Mods with excuses When does it stop lol

TLP put up a good fight, good job on overcoming the defense disadvantage and winning FOE

That's a pretty dumb way to look at it. Good job FOE, didn't expect it any other way

Good post Still strongly believe the only way this can happen is if a couple leaders from HPC clans agree with each other and move down to hunt them.

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Would be funny to see what clans this would impact the most, last time this happened CP's pull went from like ~60+ to like 20.. Smart move by EoP/Fi to take the initiative and do that

Maybe because both clans prepped for it during the PCT full out category? Doesn't matter the opts, that full out holds more merit than say Z vs Ir where both pulled 100 with most of those being invites or whatever

... ends up replying back just as fast Good job friends, how's Kyle doing ?

Well done TLP

This. 101 Sins? Seriously...?

Only the first part of what he said was true, CP in 2008 was actually pretty good.. before they merged with SD and the people from Tyrant Pures joined them (Toxine mostly, pk3rx92 and some others) Could be wrong but pretty sure after SPW left CP soon became the clan everyone sees them as today Dr R A G E should've been on the poll.

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Good job FOE, still looking strong

Good post May be wrong, but I'm pretty sure most of the people leading these clans have done terrible if you look at their history (closing and reopening clans constantly) If MM or Enemy reopened under a similar leadership that made them thrive, they'd be able to make the jump so much faster because they'd have solid leadership and dedicated members

Oh is that what's happening? Doesn't really come as a surprise since this is what they've relied on ever since they needed to merge with SD. Mass invites has been their method to try and be more relevant on weekends... but as we know it doesn't really last and they fizzle back down pretty quickly OP has it wrong with '4th straight time' or whatever, what happened in the aftermath of the EoP-CP 2014 rivalry was unprecedented. We've seen clans bring mains, invites, or whatever to compete... but what CP managed to do last year when you slumped was never seen before. But looks like they're doing okay right now, hopefully for their sake it can last more then 3-4 weeks.

Goop. Solo has done a terrific job though, and Cronic deserves credit for keeping it going during the tough times Milky did a lot better as a Warlord and Jonty was one of the best High Councils ever in EoP imo. Both weren't really fit to be leaders (feel the same way with Floor but she had more success)

Foe - EoP one was probably the best one Unlike a lot of the other ones, it wasn't one sided (Well maybe in preps lol) and lasted a couple months... It was also for #1 which makes it more impressive Was one of the better OSRS rivalries so far

Good job Foe

QFT... Expecting these clans to move up on their own isn't going to happen. From their point of view there is no incentive to, and can you really blame them? These clans aren't Mm or Epidemic... They're mostly lead by people who've opened several clans that haven't really done much. A more realistic approach would be to have the bottom dwellers go out at their times and force them to compete like what happened about a year ago Z/RD/CT/SV all closed, so EoP and Fatality decided to go out (Followed by CP who had no choice) with Supremacy/Zerg Unit/Conviction etc and force them to step up and stop limiting themselves with arbitrary caps EoP went from pulling 30s to eventually being a top F2P clan for ~7 (?) months Zerg Unit eventually became one of the better F2P matched clans despite not having the highest levels Supremacy became a top 3 clan for a bit there with EoP/Fi These things may not happen if EoP/Fi don't take the initiative and go out to hunt the self proclaimed LPC clans

Besides the clans most people mentioned, would be cool to see some P2P based clans back and give the server a much needed activity boost. The previous version of Control, Havoc, CPR, Carnage and so on.

I would agree with this. People who are saying all clans would slump are silly.. A massive clan like Mm reopening would only be better for the community. We've seen it plenty of times in 07 now... Trips are much better when there are two or three clans fighting for #1 Foe's numbers may drop just a bit, but I'd still see them dominating P2P just with a much better competitor