Deep Thought

Why are you posting on this topic when you started clanning in 2015?

Why are you posting on this topic when you started clanning in 2015?

Why are you posting on this topic when you started clanning in 2015?

Why are you posting on this topic when you started clanning in 2015?

1. EOP
2. Apex
3. IR
4. FOE
5. PX
6. FI
7. SF
8. AAO
8. ST
9. SUP

thank you

1. EOP
2. FOE
3. PX
4. UB
5. IR
6. Apex
7, AAO
8. Sup
9. MF
10. FI
11. SF
Real list, if u say otherwise ur dumb lo

MM, Epidemic, The Hatred and Devastation. 
To @Sandra do not quote me on this, but I believe much of the IR rank team is pre-eoc guys. If so, then one should expect some growing pains as the game is now more advanced or at the least more organized. 
 

is that the standard for .gifs these days lmao

F2P Wilderness
1. EOP
2. FOE
3. IR
4. PX
5. UB
6. Apex
7. AAO
8. CD
9. SUP
10. FI
11. SF
 
F2P Clan Wars (Matched)
1. FOE
2. UB
3. PX
4. EOP
5. SUP
6. Apex
7. IR
8. FI
9. AAO
10. CD
11. SF
 
P2P Wilderness
1. FOE
2. EOP
3. IR
4. MF
5. UB
6. PX
7. Apex
8. AAO
9. SF
10. SUP
11. FI
 
P2P Clan Wars (Matched)
1. FOE
2. UB
3. EOP
4. Apex
5. PX
6. MF
7. IR
8. SUP
9. FI
10. AAO
11. SF
 
Overall
1. FOE
2. EOP
3. UB
4. PX
5. IR
6. Apex
7. SUP
8. MF
9. AAO
10. FI
11. CD
12. SF

F2P Wilderness
1. EOP
2. FOE
3. IR
4. PX
5. UB
6. Apex
7. AAO
8. CD
9. SUP
10. FI
11. SF
 
F2P Clan Wars (Matched)
1. FOE
2. UB
3. PX
4. EOP
5. SUP
6. Apex
7. IR
8. FI
9. AAO
10. CD
11. SF
 
P2P Wilderness
1. FOE
2. EOP
3. IR
4. MF
5. UB
6. PX
7. Apex
8. AAO
9. SF
10. SUP
11. FI
 
P2P Clan Wars (Matched)
1. FOE
2. UB
3. EOP
4. Apex
5. PX
6. MF
7. IR
8. SUP
9. FI
10. AAO
11. SF
 
Overall
1. FOE
2. EOP
3. UB
4. PX
5. IR
6. Apex
7. SUP
8. MF
9. AAO
10. FI
11. CD
12. SF

F2P Wilderness
1. EOP
2. FOE
3. IR
4. PX
5. UB
6. Apex
7. AAO
8. CD
9. SUP
10. FI
11. SF
 
F2P Clan Wars (Matched)
1. FOE
2. UB
3. PX
4. EOP
5. SUP
6. Apex
7. IR
8. FI
9. AAO
10. CD
11. SF
 
P2P Wilderness
1. FOE
2. EOP
3. IR
4. MF
5. UB
6. PX
7. Apex
8. AAO
9. SF
10. SUP
11. FI
 
P2P Clan Wars (Matched)
1. FOE
2. UB
3. EOP
4. Apex
5. PX
6. MF
7. IR
8. SUP
9. FI
10. AAO
11. SF
 
Overall
1. FOE
2. EOP
3. UB
4. PX
5. IR
6. Apex
7. SUP
8. MF
9. AAO
10. FI
11. CD
12. SF

F2P Wilderness
1. EOP
2. FOE
3. IR
4. PX
5. UB
6. Apex
7. AAO
8. CD
9. SUP
10. FI
11. SF
 
F2P Clan Wars (Matched)
1. FOE
2. UB
3. PX
4. EOP
5. SUP
6. Apex
7. IR
8. FI
9. AAO
10. CD
11. SF
 
P2P Wilderness
1. FOE
2. EOP
3. IR
4. MF
5. UB
6. PX
7. Apex
8. AAO
9. SF
10. SUP
11. FI
 
P2P Clan Wars (Matched)
1. FOE
2. UB
3. EOP
4. Apex
5. PX
6. MF
7. IR
8. SUP
9. FI
10. AAO
11. SF
 
Overall
1. FOE
2. EOP
3. UB
4. PX
5. IR
6. Apex
7. SUP
8. MF
9. AAO
10. FI
11. CD
12. SF

F2P Wilderness
1. EOP
2. FOE
3. IR
4. PX
5. UB
6. Apex
7. AAO
8. CD
9. SUP
10. FI
11. SF
 
F2P Clan Wars (Matched)
1. FOE
2. UB
3. PX
4. EOP
5. SUP
6. Apex
7. IR
8. FI
9. AAO
10. CD
11. SF
 
P2P Wilderness
1. FOE
2. EOP
3. IR
4. MF
5. UB
6. PX
7. Apex
8. AAO
9. SF
10. SUP
11. FI
 
P2P Clan Wars (Matched)
1. FOE
2. UB
3. EOP
4. Apex
5. PX
6. MF
7. IR
8. SUP
9. FI
10. AAO
11. SF
 
Overall
1. FOE
2. EOP
3. UB
4. PX
5. IR
6. Apex
7. SUP
8. MF
9. AAO
10. FI
11. CD
12. SF

I noticed you must have forgotten my name, but don't worry I edited in a nice little bio as my first Gatekeeper Job. 

@BvG@Lenin@Tyendinaga@Moni I offer you a slice of my giant brain and great ides for FREE. Seriously, I am open to help discussing the various little things that will outline such an ambitious idea by the community. 
For starters: MAKE IT 4 LISTS. P2P Fullout, P2P Matched, F2P Fullout and F2P Matched. Only set the matched category as minimum 30, but allow clans to pull whatever they like (just sit to the lower clan). Obviously fullouts would be uncapped. 

The raw list was KING way back in the day, people just make sad excuses as to why it wouldn't work today.
As for SB tournaments vs. PCT do not tell me clans used to be able to pull 50+ more back then. There were tons of MPCs and that routinely pulled maybe 30-45 each weekend and 25-35 for preps (very similar to now) who would get together for the matched fights (no limit, just had to sit to the lower clan) and fullouts (Only top 3 or so clans pulled 100) during PCT. Most MPCs pulled in the 45-70 range to fullouts, but they still did them. 
There is some fake rational floating around here that if you cannot pull 100 to a fullout, then why do one. I simply do not understand it. Beyond that people keep just defaulting to "that will never work" rather than giving it a real shot. Ultimately, we have 10-12 open clans who can all reasonably pull 30 to a prep. It comes down to whether the ranks in the previously mentioned clans can sack up and make something work or if they would rather avoid action all together. 

You're so new @Deep Thought  

who even is this person 

The state of the community has increased significantly post HPC. There are still cancerous regimes in place who care more about their narrow views than the community as a whole, but that is more or less unavoidable. We are now at a cross roads where everyone 's 1 def pures are beyond maxed so people are getting bored and training attack/prayer at a higher clip. The voices have begun to both whisper and yell for 20+ defense. I believe it is of unparalleled importance that we shun these voices or we will effectively kill our community. It is absurdly hard to bring in 1 def edge pures to a 39 def scene. Runescape as a whole has seen some life support in the form of jagex making mostly competent decisions for the first time in a long while. It makes the most sense for us as a community to keep the mith, addy and rune (SMH) away and promote our fights to as wide an audience as we can. Most people would love the competitive aspects of our unique pure scene if only they knew it existed and if we could curve some of the most cancerous individuals among us. 
The individual skill level is miles ahead of previous eras and for most of the summer almost every clan was capable of pulling 45+ at some points. There was one sunday this summer where EOP, FOE, UB, Apex, IR, MF, FI, and SUP ALL pulled between 45-65. Clans like IR, PX, MF and even SF have done a solid job at adding a couple 100+ new pures to the scene that had never clanned before. The more new blood and less recycling of members we as a community can bring in, the better. 

The state of the community has increased significantly post HPC. There are still cancerous regimes in place who care more about their narrow views than the community as a whole, but that is more or less unavoidable. We are now at a cross roads where everyone 's 1 def pures are beyond maxed so people are getting bored and training attack/prayer at a higher clip. The voices have begun to both whisper and yell for 20+ defense. I believe it is of unparalleled importance that we shun these voices or we will effectively kill our community. It is absurdly hard to bring in 1 def edge pures to a 39 def scene. Runescape as a whole has seen some life support in the form of jagex making mostly competent decisions for the first time in a long while. It makes the most sense for us as a community to keep the mith, addy and rune (SMH) away and promote our fights to as wide an audience as we can. Most people would love the competitive aspects of our unique pure scene if only they knew it existed and if we could curve some of the most cancerous individuals among us. 
The individual skill level is miles ahead of previous eras and for most of the summer almost every clan was capable of pulling 45+ at some points. There was one sunday this summer where EOP, FOE, UB, Apex, IR, MF, FI, and SUP ALL pulled between 45-65. Clans like IR, PX, MF and even SF have done a solid job at adding a couple 100+ new pures to the scene that had never clanned before. The more new blood and less recycling of members we as a community can bring in, the better. 

Paragraph 1: Yes and No. I think there are some great leadership groups and some cancerous regimes. For the community as a whole to grow it matters more that the members are not recycled rather than the leaders. Realistically some new 2k17 clanner would not be able to create his own clan and rise to the top. The years (in some cases decades) old infrastructure of existing clans are important. 
I would note that currently within this community there is a unwritten rule of momentum that if you lose anything your clan is instantly in a slump or something. Back in the day, clans would have a handful of fullouts EACH year and even losing one of those did not carry such a giant weight. These days clans would rather get no action as they are outright petrified of losing. If the current leaders could overcome that mentality then the scene would grow overnight.  
Paragraph 2: 85%. The competitiveness and idea of rivalries is what fuels a lot of what makes our community great. However, there is a fine line between a solid rivalry/good banter and outright cancer. Obviously things should never go the way of doxing, ddosing, hackings and other scummy tactics. 
The more cancerous activities that happen in game tend to be ragging and the use of mains. The idea that ANY clan would want to engage in such a race to the bottom mostly just showcases how weak minded their leadership is. Who wants to be the best pure at using mains? or who wants to be the best ragger? The community as a whole would be better if we had even a shred of the honor and respect clans had back in the day for each other. Believe it or not, there was a whole era where you could get 1-2 other clans to anti-crash a wilderness full out. In this current era, members from EVERY single pure clan decided to go join EOP/FOEs rag war with random capes after their trips ended a fews back. I'm not sure that level of moral guidance will ever be recovered. In fact, it is amazing  many of our community members had more self control a decade ago than they do now. 
Along the fine lines of a rivalry comes getting over petty brown sticky stuff. All clans are defined by their rivalries and best wins. Foe and MM's rivalry best showcases this. Where would we be if one of them had closed in say 2009? If you kill off all of your enemies, then who is left to fight?
Paragraph 3: I completely disagree with this sentiment. This falls under the "OMG YOU PLAY RUNESCAPE IN <insert month/year>" banter bucket. Anyone who posts on this site simply cannot post "you should just all quit" and those who do are hypocritical losers lol.
For those who do care either about the game or the community at large need to be the change they wish to see. Be thoughtful about how your actions ripple throughout the community. If you are a rank, then speak up for change and improvement. If you are a member, then pressure your ranks for change and improvement. If your ranks will not stand for what you believe is right, then leave and join a clan who does. Above all else, don't just be a bundle of twigsgot troll. No one thinks you are cool because of how much you don't care. If your life sucks so much outside of this game that you need to be an tomato for someone to pay attention to you then you should probably just go grab a rope lol. 

That comes down to the leaders of the clans who never prep and their members. No matter who you ask, X clan is afraid to prep them. I simply don't buy it. If you are a member of  one of those clans then apply pressure to your ranks to prep more/prep certain clans. 
On the other hand, there are a handful of clans (Apex comes to mind first) who actively prep 2+ times a week. As I state above, it boils down to a few incompetent/cancerous regimes.

You're dutch and have 1000 posts on this website LOL

lmfao you typed this in october 2017