Tribey0 Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 The average member of foe is probably older and they actually have stuff to do in their days besides returning on rs for 5 hours straight. So you don't have what it takes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holydreams Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 Well in your example, if a clan is down 500 to 1000, I agree, but what if the numbers are closer and it is a back and forth? say 60:70 and 70:60, like a losing clan can send in a bunch of reinforcements at the correct time to overwhelm the supposed winning clan True, but my point revolves around lengthy fights and ones where there is mass returning. If Clan A gets off to a good start, gets 50 quick quills and 25 deaths but then clan B returns and manages to overwhelm clan A and get 45 kills while only 10 more deaths and it is at 70:60 for clan B it doesn't mean they win if they run away if the fight has been going on for a short period of time and both clans are still there. They have to completely clear them. On the other hand if there IS a fight that has lasted 1 hour+ and a clan decides to dip not because they are cleared but because it's pointless to continue and they have a large lead in kills then they win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slushpuppy Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 True, but my point revolves around lengthy fights and ones where there is mass returning. If Clan A gets off to a good start, gets 50 quick quills and 25 deaths but then clan B returns and manages to overwhelm clan A and get 45 kills while only 10 more deaths and it is at 70:60 for clan B it doesn't mean they win if they run away if the fight has been going on for a short period of time and both clans are still there. They have to completely clear them. On the other hand if there IS a fight that has lasted 1 hour+ and a clan decides to dip not because they are cleared but because it's pointless to continue and they have a large lead in kills then they win. Agreed, but most pure clans create their aftermaths based on final KDR tally rather than individual kdr highlights. As far as I can also remember, some clan trackers simply took (kills @ 1AM GMT - kills @ 10PM GMT), which is wholly inaccurate and allowed clans to farm kills after they ended their trips at 11pm GMT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holydreams Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 Agreed, but most pure clans create their aftermaths based on final KDR tally rather than individual kdr highlights. As far as I can also remember, some clan trackers simply took (kills @ 1AM GMT - kills @ 10PM GMT), which is wholly inaccurate and allowed clans to farm kills after they ended their trips at 11pm GMT Yeah true there is a lot of abusing that could take place which is why I hope there is a very well thought out system that would be implemented if they added KD trackers, which doesn't allow you to farm it and claim false wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith- Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 did not reaaaaaaaaadhonestly are you slow or something it seems you have to make a point that you cannot read more than a sentence on every topic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith- Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 Lol idk what KDR you were checking. occording to the kdr tracker EF was better than mm, Fi, nme, and many others! Hardy har har... This might have had good intentions when made but I was an invite on zenith/cp trips pre eoc and all I heard co0kiez say after we crashed a fight is "check the kdr tracker... If your that one guy who died you suck" or in cp they legit invited any of our high levels to the cc but not the low levels and our trips would be log in at mossies range the vents while foe and eop are fighting... Then go log out as soon as they even think to attack.. We would have 5 seconds of action for the kdr win!!! Lol I think this kdr is a tool for bad clans to sit in the lobby and not fight snipe something, log out and tell the members they did good... Nothing more than a propaganda tool and no one but tryhards trying to "make an impact" or "achieve" something would want this, lock this and delete it and NEVER bring it up again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slushpuppy Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 Yeah true there is a lot of abusing that could take place which is why I hope there is a very well thought out system that would be implemented if they added KD trackers, which doesn't allow you to farm it and claim false wins. I will prolly try to make an accurate 1 should the data becomes available for me to scrape Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribey0 Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 I will prolly try to make an accurate 1 should the data becomes available for me to scrape Please read what Quode said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith- Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 I will prolly try to make an accurate 1 should the data becomes available for me to scrapedon't you do it slush it has worst idea ever written all over it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quode Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 But imo The clan that wins is the one that has the most kills to deaths ratio, not the one that's the last clan there. What if clan A had 1000 kills and 500 deaths while clan B had 500 kills and 1000 deaths but clan A left first. With these stats clan B wouldn't be able to claim a win which is fair because clan A deserved to win by smashing in the fight. Unless Clan B and Clan A are both logging in on separate spy accounts and just padding the KDR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith- Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 Why is this topic still open this is something cp/Lt/zu/new ranks of old clans would want to show they did something lol. Just close the discussion and delete it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribey0 Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 Why is this topic still open this is something cp/Lt/zu/new ranks of old clans would want to show they did something lol. Just close the discussion and delete it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P0ke N Die Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 Yeah it's pretty much impossible to create an accurate one. At the start of OSRS I was thinking about keeping an updated database with clan members (including invites and such) and then sitting at lumbridge on a level 3 scanning for new players appearing and doing a clan lookup so that I could keep track of deaths but then I quit. Clans just bitched about it anyway, it just made the clans that lost and posted fake wins sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sudo_ Posted March 16, 2015 Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 Yeah it's pretty much impossible to create an accurate one. At the start of OSRS I was thinking about keeping an updated database with clan members (including invites and such) and then sitting at lumbridge on a level 3 scanning for new players appearing and doing a clan lookup so that I could keep track of deaths but then I quit. Clans just bitched about it anyway, it just made the clans that lost and posted fake wins sad.or jagex could recreate the clan system they had pre-eoc for 07 and make it easier on everyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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