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Goodjob both clans!
 
Seems to me neither clan was able to clear the other; both clans had the upper hand at different parts from the looks of it. I saw mains and 1-itemers attacking both sides. 
 
You guys just need a (high) opted matched prep if you want to find out who's the 'best', since neither of you seems to have the upper hand in the wild. But from the looks of it MF don't want a prep, but a fullout. Therefore you should just go for 1 or more 50+ vs 50+ prep(s).. if not.. well just continue having fun in the wildy I guess.
 
I've always prefered wildy consistency over fullouts and preps. In the past clans put too much emphasis on fullouts to rank clans (more so than on wildy consistency). I'd rather beat a clan week in week out in the wildy and in preps than win one overly hyped fullout with a lot of invites and be inconsistent on the weekends and in preps (or refuse to do preps). So just meet each other in the middle; Fi want a prep, and MF want a fullout, so do a high opted prep. I'm sure both of you can pull 50+ to a 2 week prep.

Goodjob both clans!
 
Seems to me neither clan was able to clear the other; both clans had the upper hand at different parts from the looks of it. I saw mains and 1-itemers attacking both sides. 
 
You guys just need a (high) opted matched prep if you want to find out who's the 'best', since neither of you seems to have the upper hand in the wild. But from the looks of it MF don't want a prep, but a fullout. Therefore you should just go for 1 or more 50+ vs 50+ prep(s).. if not.. well just continue having fun in the wildy I guess.
 
I've always prefered wildy consistency over fullouts and preps. In the past clans put too much emphasis on fullouts to rank clans (more so than on wildy consistency). I'd rather beat a clan week in week out in the wildy and in preps than win one overly hyped fullout with a lot of invites and be inconsistent on the weekends and in preps (or refuse to do preps). So just meet each other in the middle; Fi want a prep, and MF want a fullout, so do a high opted prep. I'm sure both of you can pull 50+ to a 2 week prep.

Goodjob both clans! Good to see such large preps again ! Hope to see more of those every month. 

It's sad to see that some clans tollerate other clans bringing mains, in some cases even 'helping' them in fights by crashing said fights when the other clan is losing. The older pure clan versions would be ashamed by the leadership in some (legacy) clans. It's also sad to see this community has so many uneducated homophobic bigots that act like 12 year old internet gangsters. The fact that CD talk about 'mass' invites and joins (3 (ex-)SV members) while they're mass recruiting literally anyone makes me giggle . 

So 3 SV members is 'depending'? Based on your logic UB also 'depend' on TLP, NME and Epidemic, since a lot of ex-members of those clans are in UB. It makes no sense to use that excuse. People join clans.. you can't stop it. Just like members of certain clains joined CD. Just like a lot of Rage and Doom members joined Foe recently after their closure. You can't stop that process. Besides.. there's a difference between a handful of people joining your clan (whom previously belonged to the same clan) and/or 40% or more of a clan joining your clan. Without those 3 SV, UB would've pulled 62~ max, with on average 59~ people online during the whole trip. You still had the advantage number wise, so I don't see why you'd bring this up. Be glad UB are providing you with action with similar opts. That's what the game is about in the end: having fun, if you're not having fun, then what are you and your members fighting for? Judging by the rants you, and other CD members, have posted on this topic so far I'd say you didn't have as much fun as you'd like us to believe, otherwise you wouldn't make such a big deal of those few (ex-)SV members. That's how most humans work; trying to find excuses for their failures (how little they may be), usually exaggerating when they do. You seem to be doing just that. I would still like to wish you a great sunday!

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So 3 SV members is 'depending'? Based on your logic UB also 'depend' on TLP, NME and Epidemic, since a lot of ex-members of those clans are in UB. It makes no sense to use that excuse. People join clans.. you can't stop it. Just like members of certain clains joined CD. Just like a lot of Rage and Doom members joined Foe recently after their closure. You can't stop that process. Besides.. there's a difference between a handful of people joining your clan (whom previously belonged to the same clan) and/or 40% or more of a clan joining your clan. Without those 3 SV, UB would've pulled 62~ max, with on average 59~ people online during the whole trip. You still had the advantage number wise, so I don't see why you'd bring this up. Be glad UB are providing you with action with similar opts. That's what the game is about in the end: having fun, if you're not having fun, then what are you and your members fighting for? Judging by the rants you, and other CD members, have posted on this topic so far I'd say you didn't have as much fun as you'd like us to believe, otherwise you wouldn't make such a big deal of those few (ex-)SV members. That's how most humans work; trying to find excuses for their failures (how little they may be), usually exaggerating when they do. You seem to be doing just that. I would still like to wish you a great sunday!

So 3 SV members is 'depending'? Based on your logic UB also 'depend' on TLP, NME and Epidemic, since a lot of ex-members of those clans are in UB. It makes no sense to use that excuse. People join clans.. you can't stop it. Just like members of certain clains joined CD. Just like a lot of Rage and Doom members joined Foe recently after their closure. You can't stop that process. Besides.. there's a difference between a handful of people joining your clan (whom previously belonged to the same clan) and/or 40% or more of a clan joining your clan. Without those 3 SV, UB would've pulled 62~ max, with on average 59~ people online during the whole trip. You still had the advantage number wise, so I don't see why you'd bring this up. Be glad UB are providing you with action with similar opts. That's what the game is about in the end: having fun, if you're not having fun, then what are you and your members fighting for? Judging by the rants you, and other CD members, have posted on this topic so far I'd say you didn't have as much fun as you'd like us to believe, otherwise you wouldn't make such a big deal of those few (ex-)SV members. That's how most humans work; trying to find excuses for their failures (how little they may be), usually exaggerating when they do. You seem to be doing just that. I would still like to wish you a great sunday!

Goodluck joining a clan that suits you and your friends ! UB, IR, MF, Apex and Fi seem like fun clans to join right now!

Pked a decent amount during 2003-2005 with friends. We bsed masser clans like 'Pinkies' and 'Aprons' and had small pk trips. Eventually I found out there was an official pure clanning community, so I decided to join Violent Demise in 2007, and eventually joined Epidemic in 2007. 

Plode read it btw.. !

Plode read it btw.. !

Pked a decent amount during 2003-2005 with friends. We bsed masser clans like 'Pinkies' and 'Aprons' and had small pk trips. Eventually I found out there was an official pure clanning community, so I decided to join Violent Demise in 2007, and eventually joined Epidemic in 2007. 

Seemed like you had fun!

Both clans lost when they started fighting the 1 itemers for so long... I guess the 1 itemers won since they got what they wanted  ! 

In my post I never mentioned that Fi doesn't use propaganda or that they never decline preps (from certain clans). I merely tried (and probably failed) to state that it's sad to see that some clans won't prep Fi (and certain other clans), but that those clans use very poor propaganda to make it seem that Fi (and those certain other clans) don't want to prep. I've yet to see Fi doing this; openly promoting their propaganda stating that they want to prep a certain clan, but that this other clan doesn't want to prep them, because 'they're scared' (while the opposite is true, like in the above described case). This however, as stated above, doesn't mean that Fi never decline preps or that they always ask certain clans for preps, but that they don't seem to spew horrible propaganda/lies in those cases. I was also speaking about propaganda in general, which is laughable the last few years; we shouldn't even call it propaganda, poor/horrible banter/flaming seems better. 
 
There are only a few clans left that want to prep literally any clan in their league, because they only want to provide their clan members with action and practice. In the end clanning is all about having fun and getting as much action as a community, why else would you play this game? People shouldn't take this game so serious. Sure.. I get that clans want to win all their fights, and that losing a lot of fights is harmful, but it's just as bad as spreading horrible propaganda while not prepping certain clans at all.

Well done UB and FI, looking good! Keep up the fun ! That song mewho, haha!

Not going to happen (speaking for Epidemic). Doubt MM would ever return to this brown sticky stuffty community, though it would spice up things. 
 
Would love to see Malice and Ascendancy back in the game. A very low lvled pure community would be nice (40-50 cmb cap, no training allowed after hitting 50 cmb).

While not real 'rivalries' I enjoyed the fights we (Epidemic) had vs TLP, Destructive Pures and Devastation in 2008-2009. 

While I no longer play the game I do believe the community would benefit if all pure clans would stick to 1-5 def and 89 cmb max. You're 6 def or 90 cmb? Tough luck, train a new account. No exceptions! We should learn from the past; it has shown us that exceptions lead to mithril, and eventually addy with a lot of clans using mains. 

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Anything but clean fights.. saw lots of ddoses going on, they were that obvious to spot. Oh well.. 
 
Do hope you stop flaming so much. I know most of you won't take me serious, or will just flame me for saying this, but those particular spams at the end actually offend me. 
 
Grats on your 'clean win'.

Anything but clean fights.. saw lots of ddoses going on, they were that obvious to spot. Oh well.. 
 
Do hope you stop flaming so much. I know most of you won't take me serious, or will just flame me for saying this, but those particular spams at the end actually offend me. 
 
Grats on your 'clean win'.

Anything but clean fights.. saw lots of ddoses going on, they were that obvious to spot. Oh well.. 
 
Do hope you stop flaming so much. I know most of you won't take me serious, or will just flame me for saying this, but those particular spams at the end actually offend me. 
 
Grats on your 'clean win'.

Making exceptions will lead to the mass return of mith and addy in the end.