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1 hour ago, Luciel said:
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Crayons, Psych ,Erec xD
Good brown sticky stuff dude. Really nice vid.
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Nice vid. Good editing. Who did it?
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15 hours ago, Control Pker said:
Put this in the main section or else you got issues with your vision @Lenin
Feel free to open a dispute against it. But I'm not taking action like that.
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3 hours ago, Danrics said:
Ikr, because other clans are too lazy to do midweeks we have to suffer RIP
Not suffering: PKRI activity is the important factor here - we care about activities against pures. Midweeks against randoms or a few mains isn't pure activity. So PKRIs still give good points.
You're being selfish: If we kept the old WCOTM points in place, you have a huge chance of winning without any F2P or prep activity. Why should other clans suffer?
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Welcome to the rank team dudes.
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7 hours ago, surreal said:
Alright so, before I even begin, I just want to help out a thriving community to not sell or give out IPs. I'm also not affiliated with any clan. I just want to help and fill out my TeamSpeak which is for free that I received from a host that I have been loyal to for the past couple of years.
You have 7 post count, no background or identity and you're providing services that put clans/teams/individuals at risk esp. if they are on static connections. No thank you.
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Rage bois
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Grats @Control Pker good clear for your clan in that situation.
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Love the song in the vid. Gj on your win.
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7 minutes ago, Salso said:
I think the restraint to take the easy way out is props to clans leadership at the moment. Without serious jagex moderation, and an increasingly competitive scene & everyone getting better at the game it is a huge props to clans who've for the longest time restrained from using mains, or kept it to a minimum.
Honestly ask whats to stop someone making a clan in the 70-100 combat bracket with any defence and any account build and rock up saturday and sunday ruining the scene? Not enough credit is given to the leaderships of these clans (even ir) for not doing scummy brown sticky stuff like this, So we aren't in a crysis it's just how its always been. As a community we play with lower defence for the fast pace action, i mean go watch/play in a main war either server it is very very slow.
Speaking from a leaders point of view the scene is very good at the moment (For EOP vs APEX/Foe it is probably different because them three are on a merry go-round of cancer)
I've actually thought about what would happen if we all, the entire pure community, decided to go main. I think thats the most interesting case.
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2 minutes ago, Salso said:
I think the restraint to take the easy way out is props to clans leadership at the moment. Without serious jagex moderation, and an increasingly competitive scene & everyone getting better at the game it is a huge props to clans who've for the longest time restrained from using mains, or kept it to a minimum.
Honestly ask whats to stop someone making a clan in the 70-100 combat bracket with any defence and any account build and rock up saturday and sunday ruining the scene? Not enough credit is given to the leaderships of these clans (even ir) for not doing scummy brown sticky stuff like this, So we aren't in a crysis it's just how its always been. As a community we play with lower defence for the fast pace action, i mean go watch/play in a main war either server it is very very slow.
Speaking from a leaders point of view the scene is very good at the moment (For EOP vs APEX/Foe it is probably different because them three are on a merry go-round of cancer)
Jagex would rather have inexperienced morons lead their events so yeah thats not gonna happen.
People have been known for scummy tactics, but 39 defence wont aid this either. I'd rather have a level 70 main rag me than a 126.
I haven't been on a trip since early December due to exams so I'm not sure how trips are going for everyone but from what I hear I'd agree with that.
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Just now, Salso said:
Again the point your making is valid, have you been to an xlpc trip? There are mains and tanks in every scene its just down to the leaderships of the clans to keep it to a minimum
Pre-eoc like will stated, 1-20def was the meta before turmoil took over.
It is true. I think atm what we're facing is more a community problem. Back then there was less hatred and immaturity, and clanning or pvp was more about the game. Some xLPC trips are disgusting too. & I agree its mainly leaderships faults.
We can split Pre-eoc though, between revisions like 317 (way back), 474 (major updates), 525 (claws) etc. and when you go back to 317 defence was never one of the main options. It seems that now it is.
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4 minutes ago, Salso said:
That has no relevance to what he replied, come on lenin you usually give a good arguement
5 minutes ago, Ex|Will said:1-20 was the meta pre-eoc before turmoil was introduced
In all seriousness; I rarely saw armour being used in trips back then. The only time I saw black, mithril or initiate was in Edge or Varrock ditch. People most likely did this to fight main accounts. Even when you watch those vids now when they show clips of trips, you'll see most people if not all have 1 defence gear.
Besides that, defence levels your combat up higher than prayer or attack does due to the combat ratio. The greater we level, the easier maxed mains can actually rip us apart. I liked that there was a LPC - MPC - HPC split, but HPC was utterly cancer. Defence just ignites more main usage or fighting against mains. Thats why its just unnecessary.
EDIT: Besides Salso, you PX boys have sure gotten salty since Rage left. Calm yourselves, I still got loves for James.
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Just now, Jamer said:
What do u mean 1def is how it started
Go watch vids from 10-15 years ago and you can see kids wearing black, mith, initiate, mystic etc
James, you started clanning a year ago.
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Just now, #Dutch said:
Stopped reading after this -.-“
wtffffff is soccer? Weird Americans
I'm GMT (UK) l0l. Its so Americans understand.
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1 hour ago, Edjez said:
ehm idk
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Very odd post bro.
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Exams have finished. I am back ONLINE!
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38 minutes ago, TZU said:
why not have clans within 1 point do a pkri since it's basically the same points as a prep =D
F2P and P2P wins give +0.50 points. No server difference.
Verified PKRIs +0.10. Minimum pull will be devised.
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1 hour ago, Conor McGregor said:
Time for a million pk trips killing a couple pvmers at venanatis to get a free sig l0l
1 hour ago, Royce said:not sure if i like it or not. Means clans who dont do cwa at all make a chance to get a cwa related sig?
Weird.
If you read the points given, you'd see that activity vs. pures are the only true way of competing in this.
Basically, this system encourages you to compete in all areas.
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The New System
For quite a long time we have had great competition within both systems. Lately, the community has been facing a lack of activity in the wilderness and largely in clan wars. Besides this, other internal problems within each system have caused some frenzy as well. We have been attempting to revamp both systems for a few months and now have decided to merge the systems within a table system harboured in standings much like in Soccer. Your wilderness AND prep activity will contribute to a monthly score which will determine your standing in the Clan Table.
One of the important thing we want this merge to do is allow clans to reflect on any negative actions they might be committing. For example, if you bring mains or cape switch, that sort of behaviour will reflect directly onto your monthly score. Another example is, if you only do one server or only preps, this system will encourage ranks to pursuit the other server or the wilderness. We, as the staff, do not want to intervene or punish clans, but rather influence them.
Note that we have contacted most clan ranks and collected information via Sharkbrew Ambassador boards & pms/IRC for several weeks now. Most of the feedback recieved has been pro-merge. Remember, most of these rules/changes were decided collectively.
This system will be launched starting February.
I will be responsible for coding the system with Slush's help. If this goes well I'll be able to help Slush to lift some pressure of him as well & scripts for your clans.
Contents
1. Table Standings System
2. Merged System Benefits
3. Points System & Rules
Table Standings System
Example: https://i.gyazo.com/775723a5bd7605d151bf958f4f6ce992.png
With a table/standings structure, the community will be able to visually see who is currently on top.
Why is this beneficial/relevant?
1. Opinions are one thing, and an actual table demonstrating monthly performance is another i.e. pure statistics, both in the wilderness and in clan wars.
2. Visual view of all clan's standings instead of searching through a large list & top/low tier view, both monthly and annually.
3. Easier to handle farming via declarations.
4. Easier to determine who is in the lead if a tiebreaker occurs e.g. w/l ratio. Priority: Total points, W/L ratio, Main shame, and Ignorers Shame.
5. Peak pulls will be recorded and placed on the table for just another statistical factor, but will not be used within the system to determine winners or tiebreakers.
Merged System Benefits
Why is this merge beneficial?
1. Clans must compete in both CW and Wildy, not just one. This means a clans overall performance will speak, not just one factor e.g. stronger core in clan wars.
2. No clan can abuse ONLY one system alone to gain an award or attack another clan's chances at winning.
3. Unacceptable tactics are punished overall. If a clan uses mains in the wilderness, they will also be punished in terms of clan wars activity.
4. People can't attack one award e.g. WCOTM for farmed wins, and will have to bow down to a single winner competing both in CW and Wildy. I.e. its easier to farm for WCOTM or COTM only than both at the same time.
5. Easier to handle and be more productive for a single system - ALL staff working on one system (more brainpower) than split 4-3 on diff. systems.
6. No need to have tons of rules, guidelines etc. topics all around the place. e.g. COTM has topics in 3 diff. sections whilst WCOTM has topics in diff. places too. Its confusing or not structured. Less reading for clan ranks.
Points System & Rules
Clan Wars scoring
Only BO3s and BO5s (extra +0.10) count. 2 BO3s OR 1 BO3 & 1 BO5 counts per day.
F2P and P2P wins give +0.50 points. No server difference.
25v25 minimum. 35v35+ adds +0.10. 45v45+ adds +0.20. 50v50+ adds +0.30. 80v80+ adds +1.
No participation or loss points given/taken.
Wilderness scoring
Verified Weekend Trips, F2P and P2P gives +0.40.
Verified Midweeks +0.05. Minimum pull will be devised.
Verified PKRIs +0.10. Minimum pull will be devised.
For PKRI topics to be Verified, we expect to see good evidence of action against well-established pure clans. Randoms or Mains clans/teams will count as a Midweek. You can only get 2 topics Verified per day, Midweek and/or PKRI, one for EST and one for GMT. We will need solid evidence of the times.
This means you can have either a PKRI or Midweek topic per EST and GMT. More detail on timezones will be out in the mega-thread soon.
Breaking rules
If a clan is verified to using mains, their standings will be effected for -1 points, and the topic at hand will be negated & tagged as 'MAIN'. This sets them back pretty far. Clans using mains will have column between 1/8 and 8/8 on the table for shame.
Within clan wars, usage of cape switching, breaking base rules etc. will lead to the topic being negated. Other clans can dispute preps they weren't involved in.
Declarations
Maximum of 2 declarations per month.
Clans can declare between 10th and 20th. Clans are given 5 days to respond. The declaration prep must occur within the month.
Clans can only declare on a clan 1 +/- basis e.g. if A is first, B is second, C is third, and D is fourth, then B can only declare on A or C, not D. This prevents farming to a degree.
Ignoring declarations -0.25. Ignored winners get +0.25 (server/opts etc. do not matter). Ignorers will have column between 1/2 and 2/2 on the table for shame. This prevents opt farming.
Fighting and winning declarations leads to the base clan-wars points & an additional +0.20.
Tiebreaker/End-of-month Face-off
If the top two clans are within 1 points of each other, they will have to battle it out.
The clan in the lead will decide the server ONLY. Rest of the details can be negotiated or base rules will apply.
Some relevant changes
Other clans who weren't involved in a clan wars prep can dispute regardless - since it affects their standings +/-. We will not act or intervene until a clan decides to dispute. We expect strong evidence on any dispute.
Default minimum for preps has been increased to 25v25.
If a prep opt count is set to or below 50% of the smaller clans ML, clans are expected to pull the correct amount assuming the opt count was decided. If a clan fails to pull that and win they get -0.10 less points. But if they loose, the opposing clan gets an extra +0.10. If both clans fail to pull the amount before the agreed time, this rule is nulled, whether one clan's pull picks up or not. Everyone expects ranks to put effort in to pull.
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COTM & WCOTM - Total Revamp
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You didn't understand my point buddy. Being a wilderness clan is 1 aspect of pure clanning. If I gave you heavy points for Midweeks and PKRIs you'd have a great advantage against clans that do all aspects of clanning. Do you understand what I mean?
I've already ran some figures alongside the staff. I mean you get 2 Wilderness topics verified per day which is x 14 per week for Misfits = still good points. I would honestly recommend you guys to atleast pick up prep activity even if you dont like F2P.