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Hopefully the loss of the 'streak' doesn't damage FOE too much.
 
Great win for RD, good job all involved.

The first clan I led Epidemic started as a low level clan and eventually became a HPC in around a year. The second clan I led NME started as a low level clan and eventually became a HPC in around a year.
 
For my next clan I hope to follow the winning formula.

From mainly now and into the next month or two, i don't see much changing. How I think it will go considering nothing huge changes (new clans opening/clans closing etc) Mainly using F2P as a guide here, with a sprinkle of P2P
 
Bracket A
 
1.) EOP - Seem much more stable with higher pulls, and don't seem to be floundering too much. With EOP however history has shown that can switch incredibly quickly, but for the time being theyre doing well. The only clan capable of catching them right now is probably FOE and the more time passes, the more difficult it'll become.
 
2.) FOE - Can see them slowing down now that the initial "FOE REOPENING!!" hype is slowing down, and I don't think they will be able to put themselves in a position where they are within reach of #1, at least in F2P. If the 'prep streak' ends, I think it'll be a snowball effect into inner clan turmoil that will impact them badly. The staff got gifted everything they could possibly want on a silver platter, it'd be a shame if that went to waste.
 
3.) RD - Can manage to get momentum rolling fairly quickly, are a good clan matched, and are pulling good numbers to weekend trips. Hopefully they can maintain it. If FOE fall further in the F2P server I think RD will be able to overtake them if the pulls they are having hold up
 
4.) FI - Seem to dip up and down but can't see them falling below here, whilst still being able to make a push for any of the above spots given the right circumstances.
 
5.) TLP - Have seemed to be the perpetual and archetypal 'mid tier' clan in terms of pulls and impact for almost their entire existence, I think because they've been sitting at around #5 for years and years that they accept that and stay there which is a shame as when they were said to be reopening I was hoping they'd finally break that mold. Can't see them rising too many spots above for any significant frame of time, and can't see them falling too many below, either.
 
6.) SUP - Had a brief flurry a few months back where they were doing quite good, but I dare say stuff like Imperial and a general lack of ambition has slowed them down. Hopefully they begin challenging clans such as Fi and RD to more competitive fights in both the wilderness and CW to take advantage of a jump in activity
 
7.) CP - The effects of the entire CV merge and staff team debacle still hangs over you guys, and I don't think the current selection of staff are doing the best job at getting you guys back to relevance in terms of upper echelon competition. Lost alot of support inside CP's own community and are seen as a bit of a joke at the moment, but hopefully that'll change.
 
8.) ZU - At one point they considered themselves one of the best clans matched but I think relied on that too heavily, and ever since they lost a few preps haven't quite been the same. Pulls are fairly low right now but i've got faith they can bring it back.
 
9.) LT - Seem to have the occasional big pull but really don't capitalize on it very much, and have very little preps/midweek activity.
 
Bracket B
 
1.) Trauma - Decent clan could probably make the jump to the other bracket (If multiclanning was a non existent thing) but thats a different topic; decent pulls and good levels.
 
2.) Imperial - Seem to be pretty close to Trauma in terms of 'clan power', and despite probably protesting the opposite, is pretty much the doppelganger of them. Both have loads of multi clanners, similar levels, similar paths in terms of history. #1/#2 is probably interchangeable.
 
3.) Olympus - Good clan, have little multiclanners (from my understanding) and can pull big, just need the organisation and foresight to be able to set goals to attain. #1 in Bracket B should be their realistic goal. 
 
4.) Conviction - Sometimes go out, sometimes don't, seem to have a loyal member base though with a lack of multi clanners so would be cool to see them trying to grow as Olympus should be, into #1 in Bracket B.
 
5.) Chaotic - Are genuinely low levelled which needn't be a burden in terms of fighting the clans above, simply get more numbers to negate the levels (Like every successful level capped low level clans have done in history). I can see their levels rocketing at some point almost like a light switch, if they live that long.
 
6.) AAO - A legendary older pure clan, hopefully they are intelligent about it and only stay in the quicksand that is Bracket B for as long as is needed to become a true contender of Bracket A.
 
7.) Tier 1 - New clan on the block and have yet to prove themselves but seem to be doing good right now, depending on the momentum can probably have some good competition with the above two cans.
 
8.) Remedy/Vendetta/et ceteras
 
I can see a few clans opening or reopening so alot will change, but as it stands and looking forward probably something like this

Okay consider them blacklisted!

From mainly now and into the next month or two, i don't see much changing. How I think it will go considering nothing huge changes (new clans opening/clans closing etc) Mainly using F2P as a guide here, with a sprinkle of P2P
 
Bracket A
 
1.) EOP - Seem much more stable with higher pulls, and don't seem to be floundering too much. With EOP however history has shown that can switch incredibly quickly, but for the time being theyre doing well. The only clan capable of catching them right now is probably FOE and the more time passes, the more difficult it'll become.
 
2.) FOE - Can see them slowing down now that the initial "FOE REOPENING!!" hype is slowing down, and I don't think they will be able to put themselves in a position where they are within reach of #1, at least in F2P. If the 'prep streak' ends, I think it'll be a snowball effect into inner clan turmoil that will impact them badly. The staff got gifted everything they could possibly want on a silver platter, it'd be a shame if that went to waste.
 
3.) RD - Can manage to get momentum rolling fairly quickly, are a good clan matched, and are pulling good numbers to weekend trips. Hopefully they can maintain it. If FOE fall further in the F2P server I think RD will be able to overtake them if the pulls they are having hold up
 
4.) FI - Seem to dip up and down but can't see them falling below here, whilst still being able to make a push for any of the above spots given the right circumstances.
 
5.) TLP - Have seemed to be the perpetual and archetypal 'mid tier' clan in terms of pulls and impact for almost their entire existence, I think because they've been sitting at around #5 for years and years that they accept that and stay there which is a shame as when they were said to be reopening I was hoping they'd finally break that mold. Can't see them rising too many spots above for any significant frame of time, and can't see them falling too many below, either.
 
6.) SUP - Had a brief flurry a few months back where they were doing quite good, but I dare say stuff like Imperial and a general lack of ambition has slowed them down. Hopefully they begin challenging clans such as Fi and RD to more competitive fights in both the wilderness and CW to take advantage of a jump in activity
 
7.) CP - The effects of the entire CV merge and staff team debacle still hangs over you guys, and I don't think the current selection of staff are doing the best job at getting you guys back to relevance in terms of upper echelon competition. Lost alot of support inside CP's own community and are seen as a bit of a joke at the moment, but hopefully that'll change.
 
8.) ZU - At one point they considered themselves one of the best clans matched but I think relied on that too heavily, and ever since they lost a few preps haven't quite been the same. Pulls are fairly low right now but i've got faith they can bring it back.
 
9.) LT - Seem to have the occasional big pull but really don't capitalize on it very much, and have very little preps/midweek activity.
 
Bracket B
 
1.) Trauma - Decent clan could probably make the jump to the other bracket (If multiclanning was a non existent thing) but thats a different topic; decent pulls and good levels.
 
2.) Imperial - Seem to be pretty close to Trauma in terms of 'clan power', and despite probably protesting the opposite, is pretty much the doppelganger of them. Both have loads of multi clanners, similar levels, similar paths in terms of history. #1/#2 is probably interchangeable.
 
3.) Olympus - Good clan, have little multiclanners (from my understanding) and can pull big, just need the organisation and foresight to be able to set goals to attain. #1 in Bracket B should be their realistic goal. 
 
4.) Conviction - Sometimes go out, sometimes don't, seem to have a loyal member base though with a lack of multi clanners so would be cool to see them trying to grow as Olympus should be, into #1 in Bracket B.
 
5.) Chaotic - Are genuinely low levelled which needn't be a burden in terms of fighting the clans above, simply get more numbers to negate the levels (Like every successful level capped low level clans have done in history). I can see their levels rocketing at some point almost like a light switch, if they live that long.
 
6.) AAO - A legendary older pure clan, hopefully they are intelligent about it and only stay in the quicksand that is Bracket B for as long as is needed to become a true contender of Bracket A.
 
7.) Tier 1 - New clan on the block and have yet to prove themselves but seem to be doing good right now, depending on the momentum can probably have some good competition with the above two cans.
 
8.) Remedy/Vendetta/et ceteras
 
I can see a few clans opening or reopening so alot will change, but as it stands and looking forward probably something like this

From mainly now and into the next month or two, i don't see much changing. How I think it will go considering nothing huge changes (new clans opening/clans closing etc) Mainly using F2P as a guide here, with a sprinkle of P2P
 
Bracket A
 
1.) EOP - Seem much more stable with higher pulls, and don't seem to be floundering too much. With EOP however history has shown that can switch incredibly quickly, but for the time being theyre doing well. The only clan capable of catching them right now is probably FOE and the more time passes, the more difficult it'll become.
 
2.) FOE - Can see them slowing down now that the initial "FOE REOPENING!!" hype is slowing down, and I don't think they will be able to put themselves in a position where they are within reach of #1, at least in F2P. If the 'prep streak' ends, I think it'll be a snowball effect into inner clan turmoil that will impact them badly. The staff got gifted everything they could possibly want on a silver platter, it'd be a shame if that went to waste.
 
3.) RD - Can manage to get momentum rolling fairly quickly, are a good clan matched, and are pulling good numbers to weekend trips. Hopefully they can maintain it. If FOE fall further in the F2P server I think RD will be able to overtake them if the pulls they are having hold up
 
4.) FI - Seem to dip up and down but can't see them falling below here, whilst still being able to make a push for any of the above spots given the right circumstances.
 
5.) TLP - Have seemed to be the perpetual and archetypal 'mid tier' clan in terms of pulls and impact for almost their entire existence, I think because they've been sitting at around #5 for years and years that they accept that and stay there which is a shame as when they were said to be reopening I was hoping they'd finally break that mold. Can't see them rising too many spots above for any significant frame of time, and can't see them falling too many below, either.
 
6.) SUP - Had a brief flurry a few months back where they were doing quite good, but I dare say stuff like Imperial and a general lack of ambition has slowed them down. Hopefully they begin challenging clans such as Fi and RD to more competitive fights in both the wilderness and CW to take advantage of a jump in activity
 
7.) CP - The effects of the entire CV merge and staff team debacle still hangs over you guys, and I don't think the current selection of staff are doing the best job at getting you guys back to relevance in terms of upper echelon competition. Lost alot of support inside CP's own community and are seen as a bit of a joke at the moment, but hopefully that'll change.
 
8.) ZU - At one point they considered themselves one of the best clans matched but I think relied on that too heavily, and ever since they lost a few preps haven't quite been the same. Pulls are fairly low right now but i've got faith they can bring it back.
 
9.) LT - Seem to have the occasional big pull but really don't capitalize on it very much, and have very little preps/midweek activity.
 
Bracket B
 
1.) Trauma - Decent clan could probably make the jump to the other bracket (If multiclanning was a non existent thing) but thats a different topic; decent pulls and good levels.
 
2.) Imperial - Seem to be pretty close to Trauma in terms of 'clan power', and despite probably protesting the opposite, is pretty much the doppelganger of them. Both have loads of multi clanners, similar levels, similar paths in terms of history. #1/#2 is probably interchangeable.
 
3.) Olympus - Good clan, have little multiclanners (from my understanding) and can pull big, just need the organisation and foresight to be able to set goals to attain. #1 in Bracket B should be their realistic goal. 
 
4.) Conviction - Sometimes go out, sometimes don't, seem to have a loyal member base though with a lack of multi clanners so would be cool to see them trying to grow as Olympus should be, into #1 in Bracket B.
 
5.) Chaotic - Are genuinely low levelled which needn't be a burden in terms of fighting the clans above, simply get more numbers to negate the levels (Like every successful level capped low level clans have done in history). I can see their levels rocketing at some point almost like a light switch, if they live that long.
 
6.) AAO - A legendary older pure clan, hopefully they are intelligent about it and only stay in the quicksand that is Bracket B for as long as is needed to become a true contender of Bracket A.
 
7.) Tier 1 - New clan on the block and have yet to prove themselves but seem to be doing good right now, depending on the momentum can probably have some good competition with the above two cans.
 
8.) Remedy/Vendetta/et ceteras
 
I can see a few clans opening or reopening so alot will change, but as it stands and looking forward probably something like this

From mainly now and into the next month or two, i don't see much changing. How I think it will go considering nothing huge changes (new clans opening/clans closing etc) Mainly using F2P as a guide here, with a sprinkle of P2P
 
Bracket A
 
1.) EOP - Seem much more stable with higher pulls, and don't seem to be floundering too much. With EOP however history has shown that can switch incredibly quickly, but for the time being theyre doing well. The only clan capable of catching them right now is probably FOE and the more time passes, the more difficult it'll become.
 
2.) FOE - Can see them slowing down now that the initial "FOE REOPENING!!" hype is slowing down, and I don't think they will be able to put themselves in a position where they are within reach of #1, at least in F2P. If the 'prep streak' ends, I think it'll be a snowball effect into inner clan turmoil that will impact them badly. The staff got gifted everything they could possibly want on a silver platter, it'd be a shame if that went to waste.
 
3.) RD - Can manage to get momentum rolling fairly quickly, are a good clan matched, and are pulling good numbers to weekend trips. Hopefully they can maintain it. If FOE fall further in the F2P server I think RD will be able to overtake them if the pulls they are having hold up
 
4.) FI - Seem to dip up and down but can't see them falling below here, whilst still being able to make a push for any of the above spots given the right circumstances.
 
5.) TLP - Have seemed to be the perpetual and archetypal 'mid tier' clan in terms of pulls and impact for almost their entire existence, I think because they've been sitting at around #5 for years and years that they accept that and stay there which is a shame as when they were said to be reopening I was hoping they'd finally break that mold. Can't see them rising too many spots above for any significant frame of time, and can't see them falling too many below, either.
 
6.) SUP - Had a brief flurry a few months back where they were doing quite good, but I dare say stuff like Imperial and a general lack of ambition has slowed them down. Hopefully they begin challenging clans such as Fi and RD to more competitive fights in both the wilderness and CW to take advantage of a jump in activity
 
7.) CP - The effects of the entire CV merge and staff team debacle still hangs over you guys, and I don't think the current selection of staff are doing the best job at getting you guys back to relevance in terms of upper echelon competition. Lost alot of support inside CP's own community and are seen as a bit of a joke at the moment, but hopefully that'll change.
 
8.) ZU - At one point they considered themselves one of the best clans matched but I think relied on that too heavily, and ever since they lost a few preps haven't quite been the same. Pulls are fairly low right now but i've got faith they can bring it back.
 
9.) LT - Seem to have the occasional big pull but really don't capitalize on it very much, and have very little preps/midweek activity.
 
Bracket B
 
1.) Trauma - Decent clan could probably make the jump to the other bracket (If multiclanning was a non existent thing) but thats a different topic; decent pulls and good levels.
 
2.) Imperial - Seem to be pretty close to Trauma in terms of 'clan power', and despite probably protesting the opposite, is pretty much the doppelganger of them. Both have loads of multi clanners, similar levels, similar paths in terms of history. #1/#2 is probably interchangeable.
 
3.) Olympus - Good clan, have little multiclanners (from my understanding) and can pull big, just need the organisation and foresight to be able to set goals to attain. #1 in Bracket B should be their realistic goal. 
 
4.) Conviction - Sometimes go out, sometimes don't, seem to have a loyal member base though with a lack of multi clanners so would be cool to see them trying to grow as Olympus should be, into #1 in Bracket B.
 
5.) Chaotic - Are genuinely low levelled which needn't be a burden in terms of fighting the clans above, simply get more numbers to negate the levels (Like every successful level capped low level clans have done in history). I can see their levels rocketing at some point almost like a light switch, if they live that long.
 
6.) AAO - A legendary older pure clan, hopefully they are intelligent about it and only stay in the quicksand that is Bracket B for as long as is needed to become a true contender of Bracket A.
 
7.) Tier 1 - New clan on the block and have yet to prove themselves but seem to be doing good right now, depending on the momentum can probably have some good competition with the above two cans.
 
8.) Remedy/Vendetta/et ceteras
 
I can see a few clans opening or reopening so alot will change, but as it stands and looking forward probably something like this

Nice job Allen and company, a very successful year all in all. Enjoy your anniversary

Nice job Allen and company, a very successful year all in all. Enjoy your anniversary

eop is p2p based so its expected

I was personally inspired in my leading by a couple of people over the years, no particular order as all people have negative and positive points. Not to forget the staff team beneath and around these leaders who make it possible, but thats a whole separate list.
 
SPW - CP in 2008, SPW was very disciplined and quick thinking, which obviously worked as he made CP one of the strongest clans in terms of warring, way better than any other clan around at that point. 
Dr Rage - CP until around 2008, he had the flip side of the coin in that whilst still being a strong figurehead like SPW, was much more thoughtful over his decisions.
Bob - Bob knew how to mould a fun community to be a part of and is friendly with absolutely anyone he comes across (Other than perhaps Zo), including rival clans which benefited the clans he was in massively.
Jibs - A throwback to the beginning of pure clanning, Jib has experienced everything there is to experience in pure clanning and was very decisive. An inspiring presence. Was one of the first callers in pure clanning and imo one of the best.
Prateek - His calling pretty much transformed the clans he was the warlord for into an efficient and organised group, knew how to read a fight and adapt to that. 
Ben - When fully dedicated Ben exemplifies all of the above's positive characteristics and is an absolutely work horse.
Goop - EOP were at rock bottom in early 2009, slumped down to 10 person pulls and horrible inner clan turmoil. Goop dropped his ego, patched up the wounds, and put alot of hard work in and went on to drag his clan to the top level of pure clanning, eventually retaking #1. After seeing EOP at its absolute worst, it was a cool thing to witness.
 
Tonnes more that I could add but these are the ones that stand out for me.

Based on aftermath topics mainly, average number. Been pretty liberal with the numbers both up and down, but i'd say over the last few weeks or whatever this is somewhere around the real numbers
 
Eruption of Pures - 70 
Final Ownage Elite - 70
The Last Pures - 50
Fatality - 50
Redemption - 50
Suprmacy - 50
Corrupt Pures -40
ZU - 40
Leet Tactics - 40
 
Olympus - 50
Conviction - 50
Trauma - 40
Imperial - 40
Curse - 30
Chaos - 30
Remedy - 20
 
Thats 460 with the HPC bracket, and 720 total with the MPC/LPC bracket. Obviously with clans being with multiclanners that PK with the LPC's, i'd estimate the number of people active in the few hours of the weekend trips is around the 600+ mark. Would be interesting to compare it to any other time period, but i'd bet it is pretty good going and i'd think would be pretty high up in terms of all time activity.

Based on aftermath topics mainly, average number. Been pretty liberal with the numbers both up and down, but i'd say over the last few weeks or whatever this is somewhere around the real numbers
 
Eruption of Pures - 70 
Final Ownage Elite - 70
The Last Pures - 50
Fatality - 50
Redemption - 50
Suprmacy - 50
Corrupt Pures -40
ZU - 40
Leet Tactics - 40
 
Olympus - 50
Conviction - 50
Trauma - 40
Imperial - 40
Curse - 30
Chaos - 30
Remedy - 20
 
Thats 460 with the HPC bracket, and 720 total with the MPC/LPC bracket. Obviously with clans being with multiclanners that PK with the LPC's, i'd estimate the number of people active in the few hours of the weekend trips is around the 600+ mark. Would be interesting to compare it to any other time period, but i'd bet it is pretty good going and i'd think would be pretty high up in terms of all time activity.

So this is another private server move, presumably after the old one went down or some other issues.
 
With all these moves and stuff, all of the private server clans could have built a solid base on a REAL game like 07, got the stats they wanted without having their server shut down, and actually felt like they've accomplished something. That'd be another 5 clans on 07 at least to take the total amount closer to 20, on a game that you can actually rely on.
 
I really don't understand the fascination with private servers.

Thats a shame, especially with 'true' F2P coming at the end of the month which would have been great for any and all LPC's. Like you said in the topic though, most of you guys have hit 80 combat now so you probably wouldn't have been able to reap the true benefits of true f2p in the LPC scene.
 
Either way, good luck to all members 

The effects will be astronomical for the pure community.

Right now we're sitting on the edge of the first major "boom" period of the second generation of pure clanning, and if Oldschool goes F2P that would be the catalyst to push the community over the edge. To put it into some sort of perspective, there has been 3 'golden ages' in my opinion of pure clanning throughout history.
 
 
 
 
When Old School came it was clear alot had changed, with most of the first generation of pure clanners (2004-2012) had moved on, and the younger, more fresh second generation (IE, the people now) taking their place with new clans. Even the older clans changed their staff/leadership to better reflect this new generation. This is the first 'major' boom period for these guys.
 
Right now pulls are finally skyrocketing back up with clans pulling 70+ consistently for the first time in ages, clans such as FOE and TLP are reopening and of course there are a bunch of successful new clans like ZU/SUP/LT/RD and the LPC's that are thriving such as Trauma/Imperial/Olympus/Chaos that exemplify the new generation.
 
With F2P coming, it can only build on the foundation that has been built from the start of old school until this point. I can see lots more players coming back and bolstering the pulls of the existing 15+ clans into previously unseen pulls of old school. In terms of new clans, real LPC's will spring up organically if the community is in the right place and will form the foundation for the future.
 
To conclude, I genuinely believe that this will allow the 'old school' generation to see a golden age akin to that of the first three boom periods with new clans and an influx of new players into the community. How they'll handle this is to be seen, but time will tell.

Looking forward to the next installment in the saga of Bloody Vikingz

Looking forward to the next installment in the saga of Bloody Vikingz

Looking forward to the next installment in the saga of Bloody Vikingz

The effects will be astronomical for the pure community.

Right now we're sitting on the edge of the first major "boom" period of the second generation of pure clanning, and if Oldschool goes F2P that would be the catalyst to push the community over the edge. To put it into some sort of perspective, there has been 3 'golden ages' in my opinion of pure clanning throughout history.
 
 
 
 
When Old School came it was clear alot had changed, with most of the first generation of pure clanners (2004-2012) had moved on, and the younger, more fresh second generation (IE, the people now) taking their place with new clans. Even the older clans changed their staff/leadership to better reflect this new generation. This is the first 'major' boom period for these guys.
 
Right now pulls are finally skyrocketing back up with clans pulling 70+ consistently for the first time in ages, clans such as FOE and TLP are reopening and of course there are a bunch of successful new clans like ZU/SUP/LT/RD and the LPC's that are thriving such as Trauma/Imperial/Olympus/Chaos that exemplify the new generation.
 
With F2P coming, it can only build on the foundation that has been built from the start of old school until this point. I can see lots more players coming back and bolstering the pulls of the existing 15+ clans into previously unseen pulls of old school. In terms of new clans, real LPC's will spring up organically if the community is in the right place and will form the foundation for the future.
 
To conclude, I genuinely believe that this will allow the 'old school' generation to see a golden age akin to that of the first three boom periods with new clans and an influx of new players into the community. How they'll handle this is to be seen, but time will tell.

Looking forward to the next installment in the saga of Bloody Vikingz

Looking forward to the next installment in the saga of Bloody Vikingz

The effects will be astronomical for the pure community.

Right now we're sitting on the edge of the first major "boom" period of the second generation of pure clanning, and if Oldschool goes F2P that would be the catalyst to push the community over the edge. To put it into some sort of perspective, there has been 3 'golden ages' in my opinion of pure clanning throughout history.
 
 
 
 
When Old School came it was clear alot had changed, with most of the first generation of pure clanners (2004-2012) had moved on, and the younger, more fresh second generation (IE, the people now) taking their place with new clans. Even the older clans changed their staff/leadership to better reflect this new generation. This is the first 'major' boom period for these guys.
 
Right now pulls are finally skyrocketing back up with clans pulling 70+ consistently for the first time in ages, clans such as FOE and TLP are reopening and of course there are a bunch of successful new clans like ZU/SUP/LT/RD and the LPC's that are thriving such as Trauma/Imperial/Olympus/Chaos that exemplify the new generation.
 
With F2P coming, it can only build on the foundation that has been built from the start of old school until this point. I can see lots more players coming back and bolstering the pulls of the existing 15+ clans into previously unseen pulls of old school. In terms of new clans, real LPC's will spring up organically if the community is in the right place and will form the foundation for the future.
 
To conclude, I genuinely believe that this will allow the 'old school' generation to see a golden age akin to that of the first three boom periods with new clans and an influx of new players into the community. How they'll handle this is to be seen, but time will tell.

Looking forward to the next installment in the saga of Bloody Vikingz