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great stuff well done

Good stuff you had a great trip

What is a portal cap?

Definitely both

The community has changed too much for anything like this to work, the last time it worked as intended was 13 years ago. It worked very well at that point and was one of the features of the pure community, highlighted by Fatality challenging Eruption of Pures for #1 in summer 2007 and making record traffic and engagement on PC. I’ve got a list of all the pure clans on the RAW list then, and it was over 30 with semi regular wars for places. Bounty Hunter craters was the death knell of it, it made a brief resurgence when clan wars started figuring into the equation but as Sefket’s Pure Community closed down and with it the RAW list, it ceased to exist at all. With Clan Wars it was the perfect place for it as crashing and or cheating had been a slight issue in the wilderness era so there were high hopes that it could be ressurected in the sterile and fair CW environment. Myself and Omni brought it back on the successor community Pure Warfare and that had some legs for a while, but even then the attitude of the pure community was changing and other than a few big wars it wasn’t used by the participants to its advantage. I remember a clan opening and joining it at #17 during this period and having bi-weekly important, meaningful RAW wars (fighting #16, then #15, etc) and it really propelled their clan. When fights have high stakes it creates good morale. Unfortunately the higher the clan climbed the higher tier clans were defensive of their position and fights came to a halt. It reached a boiling point when MM left the RAW list and FOE, and some other higher tier clans left. After that it was inauthentic. For it to work it needs maximum engagement by all clans in the community, and most importantly the TOP clans in the community. These days that would be an impossible task. In the heyday of the RAW list clans were much more agreeable with each other and realised the potential of using the RAW list to expand their clans. As time went on clans became less stable and one loss could mean their clan would close; this has accelerated into the modern era where seemingly no clan will admit a loss. Why would a clan potentially risk losing and the closure of their clan? It suffered inactivity and quietly was shelved, and would probably see the same fate if implemented today. In principal it’s a great idea but the realistic take on it is that it could never work. Since 2011 or whenever it was last tried with real focus the clans in the community have become much more introverted and it simply isn’t in the best interests of these clans to be a part of something like this. Top clans wouldn’t join it even to start with and render it unimportant. It’s a shame because at its height it was a great tool for the community.

Have fun

Wow that’s so dramatic

Pure clanning has changed

I like it

Ivi Fear Ivi recruited me to MM in 2004/2005. The good old days

Lmao

2004 - I created it

[NME] Enemy is greatest clan name of all time, whoever came up with that is a top tier genius (it was me). Epidemic wasnt too shabby either. Not to mention the Epidemic Juniors, Epicdemic. Outside of those I've always loved the name Fatality, excellent name.

Hard to narrow it down to one clan but would be interesting to see how Epidemic/NME fared in the current scene. I'd say MM as well but honestly they had a monopoly on the pure community and their absence provides (or should provide) motivation for other clans to try and cement their legacy.

Miss you Plode aka the progenitor of the 30 def virus

I'm reopening both NME and Epidemic at the same time as the interchangeable #1 and #2 pure clans

Im 25 and started pure clanning in 2004, 13 years ago. Kind of wild to think that there will be children on this forum who were not even a twinkle in their fathers eyes much less alive when I was first dropping clans and cleaning noobs at duelly. Puts alot of the posts by some people into perspective

I'm the worst

Sithlord

Ah, the RAW list. I was the manager of it alongside Omni and `Pure. Was great for the time, but unfortunately could never work now. From a completely neutral viewpoint (i was in neither of these clans) The greatest RAW war in history has to be given to the EOP vs Fatality 2 week prep in the summer of 2007. Fatality were the undisputed kings of F2P for 2007. They obliterated all competition with ease, and they truly were untouchable. EOP trailed them and were better than anybody else who dared step to them, but lost to Fi consistently and in convincing fashion. Tired of losing so much, EOP upp'ed their requirements and spent 2 months building a ridiculous range unit of level 99 rangers, going from mid level to having some of the best averages of all clans, including MM/FOE/TLP. After a training and recruitment drive, it paid off and soon after they were the first clan to beat Fi in a very long time, and continued to do so week in, week out. Interestingly, it was at this point that the RAW list came out with EOP being placed at the top spot of #1 after the several wins over Fatality, something hotly discussed in the community at large. Fatality of course disputed EOP as the true #1 F2P pure clan, and miraculously now had the system to prove it - the RAW list. Fatality (#2) declared on Eruption of Pures (#1) for the right to the claim of greatest F2P pure clan, and after days of fuckery finally decided on a 2 week prep. The build up is what makes this the greatest RAW war of all time, for 2 weeks on Pure Community discussion was rife as this single fight would determine once and for all who was the GREATEST F2P PURE CLAN, no excuses. All roads led to that point. There would be no dispute; whoever won this would literally be the best pure clan on the game. When game day came, Fatality proved to be all the more experienced and fleshed out in terms of memberbase, and Fatality dethroned EOP from the #1 spot and took back what in their opinion was rightfully theirs. Poetically enough, Fatality were the better clan at the point and went on to have an awe inspiring run as #1 F2P powerhouse, whereas EOP would dwindle off and after some real Machiavellian behind the scenes hacking amongst their leadership, would fall into a slump for the better part of a year and a half, only to return with a vengeance with a #1 run of their own.

RIP

Hello

The first one pretty much set the foundation, the goal of the first and second 'Waves' were to create an artificial LPC scene ie made to specification to lay the foundation for the next few years so a constant rotation of LPCs could feed the higher levelled clans. Before the first wave, there was ZERO low levelled clans so it was a blank slate. The first one spawned Zu and SUP as obvious success stories but eventually that started to taper off a bit and whilst there were new clans being created based off this (LT, DR etc), not enough (good) new clans were created to stabilise the entire scene for any significant amount of time. The second consisted of Olympus as the standout and a bunch of others which when combined with the remnants of the previous set of LPCs put the scene in a position that artificially guiding the scene was no longer needed. This meant new clans were starting to grow organically and essentially create a new golden age for low level clans with Doom, Imperial etc kicking that off. Slaughter, Rage, Ruin, Envy etc are great clans and a testament to how well the entire LPC push worked. Right now, without any 'outside interference', low level clans are opening often and doing really well, which I directly attribute to the first couple of LPC clans on 07. To conclude, I'd have to say the first two waves were the most important and set the foundation. The most recent clans (Imperial, Doom) helped build on that and now we have had a flourishing LPC scene for the best part of 2 years, which has created an upward activity surge for pure clanning as a whole. The current LPCs are doing a good job of carrying the standard and imo it's only up from here.