Quode Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 The definition and classification of what makes a pure has changed much since its original creation back in 2004. For many, the biggest change came when accidental levellings to 3-5 defence, and so people then made the jump to 20defence for the sake of initiate armour in 1v1 PvP combat. Following that, you of course had the Rune Pures who basically got barrows gloves at the lowest possible defence level (at the time), and then Turmoil Pures, who quested their def in order to gain access to the new powerful prayers. Despite all of those different classifications existing however, one common thread really stood out to me as somebody who for the first part of his RS career (2005-2009) was that any combat pure essentially sacrificed combat levels to be able to do more damage in their specialized form of combat, whilst having high hp to be able to take damage from opponents who maybe had a higher tier of weapon/spell than them. So in essence, a true textbook pure is an account whose maxed out form would leave its combat level lower/equal to its HP. So theoretically the highest combat level a true pure could be would be combat 99. Obviously this doesn't apply to clanning these days, since many people build their accounts based off Clan Wars experiences and pre-eoc turmoil builds, but what are you guys' personal thoughts on being a Pure now vs being a Pure then? Do you think the more successful pure clans will be the ones with lower cb's and higher damage per second ratios? Such as clans with more accounts 60atk 1def 90+ str, range, and mage? Just curious to see how much people's thoughts have changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bday Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 Personally I would rather have clans be 1 def only but as time progresses things change either for the better or for the worse. Honestly now having 1 defence isn't going to last you in the pure clanning world but it will last you in 1v1 edge pking.If there was a 1 defence wilderness and an option where you can reset your defence just for the pures, i would be down for that in a heart beat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quode Posted September 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 Personally I would rather have clans be 1 def only but as time progresses things change either for the better or for the worse. Honestly now having 1 defence isn't going to last you in the pure clanning world but it will last you in 1v1 edge pking.If there was a 1 defence wilderness and an option where you can reset your defence just for the pures, i would be down for that in a heart beat. Why do you believe that 1def won't help you last in clans now? You can now left-click for all combat levels now so combat levels don't even matter now in terms of getting the left click. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
`Fly Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 25 defence should be the highest it goes, and even that really shouldn't be allowed. I can understand why people had 30+ because of curses pre eoc, but if your 25+ now IMO your not a pure. `Fly, WOPA, Westbrook` and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bday Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 Why do you believe that 1def won't help you last in clans now? You can now left-click for all combat levels now so combat levels don't even matter now in terms of getting the left click. Yes but in a F2P/P2P war someone with 25 defence would most likely last more than a 1 defence pure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quode Posted September 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 Yes but in a F2P/P2P war someone with 25 defence would most likely last more than a 1 defence pure. Based on the stats you would think so, but lets be honest here, so often 1def pures war better because they're used to having to clump up to survive, that even that argument has proven invalid, particularly in the past 2months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevv Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 Based on the stats you would think so, but lets be honest here, so often 1def pures war better because they're used to having to clump up to survive, that even that argument has proven invalid, particularly in the past 2months. 25 def>1 def where's the debate? mith armour + 24 def lvls > monks robes and green chaps. Not AS useful in p2p but it still gives a big boost I'd like it if it all stayed 1 def though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thimaah Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 25 def pures are the perfect pures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bday Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 Based on the stats you would think so, but lets be honest here, so often 1def pures war better because they're used to having to clump up to survive, that even that argument has proven invalid, particularly in the past 2months. Honestly you'd be considered cauliflower if you didn't listen to calls and stack up with the group, 1 def or 25 def it really doesn't matter. My argument still stands, 25 defence is more reasonable for clanning than 1 defence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibro Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 25 def>1 def where's the debate? mith armour + 24 def lvls > monks robes and green chaps. Not AS useful in p2p but it still gives a big boost I'd like it if it all stayed 1 def though using that logic why not go 30??? Addy>mithril wheres the debate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevv Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 using that logic why not go 30??? Addy>mithril wheres the debate? it's not pure r0f, 25 def is a push Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannnny Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 using that logic why not go 30??? Addy>mithril wheres the debate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Valor Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 i prefer 1 defence, but since 20 defence is tanky nd fast levels, i just made myself 20 defence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquaxi Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 1 Def Master Race Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chesty Puller Posted September 2, 2014 Report Share Posted September 2, 2014 1 def 75 attack 52 prayer. I think overall the community has accommodated more and more for the sake of competition. As people lost interest in the game more and more people devoted their accounts to their clans so they can still attend clan events and still have the maximum amount of fun as possible. But fundamentally this is flawed. I think it is good for a clan to remain 1 defense and stick true to that code (maybe 5 seeing as some pures do fuck up). First of all you won't have a huge combat gap in between your members so you eliminate the problem of having to accommodate to a clan in any level wilderness fight, you're pretty much ready to go in any area of the wilderness. Second 1 defense gives you less defense bonuses so your members are more likely to tank better during 1 defense capped fights because they are already used to tanking without the extra defense bonuses. Third it stimulates a more active community within your clan. Pking with 20-35 defense can get dull seeing as you're just going to get rushed by zerks and rune pures that have the edge over you from the start. Having 1 defense makes it easier for your community to pk and will lure your members into staying online and actually doing what they used to love, in turn making you community active, stimulating activity, and lengthening the amount of time your members stay in TS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0ldschooler Posted September 2, 2014 Report Share Posted September 2, 2014 1-20 def, rest are mains imo. especially the 100+ cb "pures" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WOPA Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 52 prayer 1 def 60 attack rest max = real pure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swg420 Posted January 10, 2015 Report Share Posted January 10, 2015 1-20 def, rest are mains imo. especially the 100+ cb "pures" ur 30 def Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iRestore Posted January 10, 2015 Report Share Posted January 10, 2015 Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
موني Posted January 10, 2015 Report Share Posted January 10, 2015 1-20 def, rest are mains imo. especially the 100+ cb "pures" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0ldschooler Posted January 10, 2015 Report Share Posted January 10, 2015 ur 30 def im 20, thanks for ur concern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallMeSwaggy Posted January 10, 2015 Report Share Posted January 10, 2015 1-5 def all these autists who got 20 def just do it because they cant tank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idk Posted January 11, 2015 Report Share Posted January 11, 2015 1 def Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob- Posted January 11, 2015 Report Share Posted January 11, 2015 It's widely discussed but I mean 1-20 has been the general standard for the longest, never really counted the turmoil dudes as pures either way pre-eoc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
إيزيس سيئة Posted January 11, 2015 Report Share Posted January 11, 2015 1-20 def, rest are mains imo. especially the 100+ cb "pures" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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