Aziz Posted April 22, 2015 Report Share Posted April 22, 2015 Countries these days barely even have external conflicts and when there is a conflict its normally a coalition of nations such as the UN or the US and their allies going in on one Nation so there is no relevant comparison to be made. If you were to go back to eg. WW2 there is more potential for comparison: EoP - Germany - Plainly able to wreck anyone 1v1, the most aggressive tactics and strategy and most experienced warrers together with the most charismatic leaders, regularly decimates whoever stands in their way. Capable of beating nearly all the other parties combined and has a track record of doing so. Can already tell your whole post is biased, didn't even bother reading the rest. But ye Germany lost and its leader committed suicide. Braden, Jim and Ash 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E0P Chaldean Posted April 22, 2015 Report Share Posted April 22, 2015 If EOP was based on a country we would be be in court for war crimes Mass murder of brown sticky stuff pures Nuking FI Nuked Fo couple times Nuking Zu soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
■■■ Posted April 22, 2015 Report Share Posted April 22, 2015 Countries these days barely even have external conflicts and when there is a conflict its normally a coalition of nations such as the UN or the US and their allies going in on one Nation so there is no relevant comparison to be made. If you were to go back to eg. WW2 there is more potential for comparison: EoP - Germany - Plainly able to wreck anyone 1v1, the most aggressive tactics and strategy and most experienced warrers together with the most charismatic leaders, regularly decimates whoever stands in their way. Capable of beating nearly all the other parties combined and has a track record of doing so. FO - Soviet Union - A history of being meatshields and sucking up. The Soviets originally had a non-aggression pact with the Nazi's because they knew they would get wrecked by the Germans if they fought over Europe. In the same vein, FO used to suck up to EOP and meatshield in exchange for us protecting them from MM (the FOEOP days). Eventually the Germans decided they'd just take Russia over after France and the rest of Europe gave in so easily, in the same way when FO reopened we decided we'd just annihilate as we'd already slumped Fi so easily. Russia were strong in defending their homeland because of the wintery conditions and the logistical issues of the Nazi's being spread too thin. In the same way that FO is pretty good in clan wars but are weak in the wilderness. Fi - France - Were destroyed by the Nazi's with embarrassing ease and spent the rest of the war contributing nothing more than weak revolutionary action. In the same way that Fi were slumped by EoP with embarrassing ease late last year and since have done nothing but attempt to interfere with the big dogs to no avail. Rd - Great Britain - Just as Britain delayed its intervention in the war as Germany rampaged through Europe, RD have had little to no influence on the action between the above 3 over the last 6 months or so despite making a lot of noise and threats. Tried to help France against Germany but France were decimated too quickly, just as RD tried to help Fi originally against EoP but Fi got slumped too quickly. Perhaps capable of making an impact but its not yet clear, but is plainly scared of Germany and will seek to leech on to whatever allies they can. CP - Italy - For some reason is trying to be Germany. Does everything they can to copy Germany just as CP does everything they can to be EoP, but lack the resources and smarts to really be a superpower. Just as Italy mainly just dealt with Northern Africa in one of the least relevant conflicts of WW2, CP mainly just goes after lilguy clans. TLP - Japan - Having their own side conflict away from the above. Japan were on decent terms with Germany and the Soviets as TLP is with EoP and FO (I think?), and are happy to focus on their own lil conflict. Just as Japan literally carroted China, TLP are doing so to Soup. Soup - China - No leadership or organisation, dominated by a far smaller enemy (Japan/TLP) and tries to suck up to the Soviets (FO). Zu - Australia - Pretty irrelevant, tries. LT - Egypt - No-one cares about them yet somehow they still managed to beat Italy (as LT beat CP in a prep last month). MM - United States - Not involved at the moment but the only nation that could actually beat Germany. Eop is Germany In the sense you are going to slump for 40 years after getting carroted by the alliance. Also I know you don't actually play rs but foe has been ahead in wildy in both servers for last few weeks (look at eop posts on top clan list) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rip ghetto Posted April 22, 2015 Report Share Posted April 22, 2015 Eop, north korea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nice guy Posted April 22, 2015 Report Share Posted April 22, 2015 Countries these days barely even have external conflicts and when there is a conflict its normally a coalition of nations such as the UN or the US and their allies going in on one Nation so there is no relevant comparison to be made. If you were to go back to eg. WW2 there is more potential for comparison: EoP - Germany - Plainly able to wreck anyone 1v1, the most aggressive tactics and strategy and most experienced warrers together with the most charismatic leaders, regularly decimates whoever stands in their way. Capable of beating nearly all the other parties combined and has a track record of doing so. FO - Soviet Union - A history of being meatshields and sucking up. The Soviets originally had a non-aggression pact with the Nazi's because they knew they would get wrecked by the Germans if they fought over Europe. In the same vein, FO used to suck up to EOP and meatshield in exchange for us protecting them from MM (the FOEOP days). Eventually the Germans decided they'd just take Russia over after France and the rest of Europe gave in so easily, in the same way when FO reopened we decided we'd just annihilate as we'd already slumped Fi so easily. Russia were strong in defending their homeland because of the wintery conditions and the logistical issues of the Nazi's being spread too thin. In the same way that FO is pretty good in clan wars but are weak in the wilderness. Fi - France - Were destroyed by the Nazi's with embarrassing ease and spent the rest of the war contributing nothing more than weak revolutionary action. In the same way that Fi were slumped by EoP with embarrassing ease late last year and since have done nothing but attempt to interfere with the big dogs to no avail. Rd - Great Britain - Just as Britain delayed its intervention in the war as Germany rampaged through Europe, RD have had little to no influence on the action between the above 3 over the last 6 months or so despite making a lot of noise and threats. Tried to help France against Germany but France were decimated too quickly, just as RD tried to help Fi originally against EoP but Fi got slumped too quickly. Perhaps capable of making an impact but its not yet clear, but is plainly scared of Germany and will seek to leech on to whatever allies they can. CP - Italy - For some reason is trying to be Germany. Does everything they can to copy Germany just as CP does everything they can to be EoP, but lack the resources and smarts to really be a superpower. Just as Italy mainly just dealt with Northern Africa in one of the least relevant conflicts of WW2, CP mainly just goes after lilguy clans. TLP - Japan - Having their own side conflict away from the above. Japan were on decent terms with Germany and the Soviets as TLP is with EoP and FO (I think?), and are happy to focus on their own lil conflict. Just as Japan literally carroted China, TLP are doing so to Soup. Soup - China - No leadership or organisation, dominated by a far smaller enemy (Japan/TLP) and tries to suck up to the Soviets (FO). Zu - Australia - Pretty irrelevant, tries. LT - Egypt - No-one cares about them yet somehow they still managed to beat Italy (as LT beat CP in a prep last month). MM - United States - Not involved at the moment but the only nation that could actually beat Germany. Can you show me how Supremacy have no organization or leadership but Supremacy just beat your clan handily in a f2p prep? Some dumb ass Nintendo DS clan can't beat PC master race what are you smoking? And Germany can't 1v1 anyone they fucking blow cock and got closed twice, split in half and put back together again LOL. Foe being Soviet Union? Soviet Union is all numbers they almost got destroyed by Finland, funnily enough your list is ass backwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Swag Posted April 22, 2015 Report Share Posted April 22, 2015 Can already tell your whole post is biased, didn't even bother reading the rest. But ye Germany lost and its leader committed suicide. Germany only lost after being teamed on by a massive alliance of nations including the intervention of the US who as I said aren't currently around (MM) so gl with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Swag Posted April 22, 2015 Report Share Posted April 22, 2015 Putting clans aside your analysis of GB in WW2 is single-handedly one of the most ignorant things I've seen on here. Hook me up your 9th grade History level knowledge of WW2 brah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mediator Posted April 22, 2015 Report Share Posted April 22, 2015 Germany only lost after being teamed on by a massive alliance of nations including the intervention of the US who as I said aren't currently around (MM) so gl with that. Germany lost coz they declared war on pretty much everyone. Sumting eop is doing now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Swag Posted April 23, 2015 Report Share Posted April 23, 2015 Germany lost coz they declared war on pretty much everyone. Sumting eop is doing now Germany didn't declare war on the US or even the UK and it's widely presumed that Hitler would have accepted peaceful co-existence with Britain but thanks for attempting to join in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mediator Posted April 23, 2015 Report Share Posted April 23, 2015 Germany didn't declare war on the US or even the UK and it's widely presumed that Hitler would have accepted peaceful co-existence with Britain but thanks for attempting to join in. Even if I changed declared to attack it will be the exact same thing eop is doing, starting brown sticky stuff with everyone then getting smashed. Judging by last weekend it has uncanny resemblance to battle of Berlin by your analogies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Swag Posted April 23, 2015 Report Share Posted April 23, 2015 Even if I changed declared to attack it will be the exact same thing eop is doing, starting brown sticky stuff with everyone then getting smashed. Judging by last weekend it has uncanny resemblance to battle of Berlin by your analogies Given that without the US (MM) Germany would probably have won the war my analogy stands true. They weren't getting smashed by any of their enemies, in fact the only enemy left were the Soviets who were getting literally carroted, so thanks for agreeing with my analogy pal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mediator Posted April 23, 2015 Report Share Posted April 23, 2015 Given that without the US (MM) Germany would probably have won the war my analogy stands true. They weren't getting smashed by any of their enemies, in fact the only enemy left were the Soviets who were getting literally carroted, so thanks for agreeing with my analogy pal. ofc I agree with your analogy. Germans for carroted 1v1 in battlefield of Britain. Got carroted in north Africa for carroted in stalingrad. The only countries they can beat are lil tiny countries like Poland. Just like how eop only win preps vs zu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Swag Posted April 23, 2015 Report Share Posted April 23, 2015 ofc I agree with your analogy. Germans for carroted 1v1 in battlefield of Britain. Got carroted in north Africa for carroted in stalingrad. The only countries they can beat are lil tiny countries like Poland. Just like how eop only win preps vs zu Thanks for confirming your absolute 0 knowledge of WW2 lmfao. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Goop Posted April 23, 2015 Report Share Posted April 23, 2015 Germany still makes nice cars #BMW #Mercedes fark 4ver miron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holydreams Posted April 23, 2015 Report Share Posted April 23, 2015 LOOOOOOL Every one is so fucking cauliflower when it comes to history and international affairs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holydreams Posted April 23, 2015 Report Share Posted April 23, 2015 Please spare me the fucking pain of readin your guys' views and responses, it sickens me LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slushpuppy Posted April 23, 2015 Report Share Posted April 23, 2015 I would say all clan are somewhat not unlike countries ran by dictatorships or with oligarchy. The clan is so dependent on a few people that when these guys retire, the clan simply turns turtle and dies/slump. Even some of the greatest clans, i.e. E, MM, FOE, EOP all have been a victim of this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dripz` Posted April 23, 2015 Report Share Posted April 23, 2015 pretty accurate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
20Def Posted April 23, 2015 Report Share Posted April 23, 2015 l0l Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solo-K1ng Posted April 23, 2015 Report Share Posted April 23, 2015 Eop is Germany In the sense you are going to slump for 40 years after getting carroted by the alliance. Also I know you don't actually play rs but foe has been ahead in wildy in both servers for last few weeks (look at eop posts on top clan list) last week yeah but everyone including hourself knows eop has been on top of f2p since start of year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Posted April 23, 2015 Report Share Posted April 23, 2015 Germany didn't declare war on the US or even the UK and it's widely presumed that Hitler would have accepted peaceful co-existence with Britain but thanks for attempting to join in. On December 11, 1941, Germany declared war upon the United States, in response to what was claimed to be a series of provocations by the United States government when the US was formally neutral during World War II. Later that day, the United States declared war on Germany. thanks for trying http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_declaration_of_war_against_the_United_States_%281941%29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt Jack Posted April 23, 2015 Report Share Posted April 23, 2015 Lithuanian Pures - Lithuania Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kobe Posted April 23, 2015 Report Share Posted April 23, 2015 lolo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted April 23, 2015 Report Share Posted April 23, 2015 Haha, pretty interesting topic. Funnily enough, I'm a history (and politics) undergrad, so yeah, one of my biggest gripes is throwing around 'myths' that people are taught at school as facts. Based on reading numerous articles/books and studying the 'historiography' I can tell you that it's widely accepted that Germany didn't have the resources to sustain the intensity and the levels of attack against Britain. Also, the social situation on the German home front was far worse than that of Britain - despite the Blitz and Germany was actually bordering of the levels of social uprising by 1943. Germany started the war very strong, but was fading out and would have eventually lost to Britain in the end (Lets face it, France did fuck all). The American intervention merely sped up the process. So if people are comparing Germany in WW2 to a clan that has one, maybe two figureheads who can hype the clan up, that relies on huge amounts of propaganda to put it's message cross to it's "citizens" or members, that started this new regime or 'era' off with a lot of hype but is more likely going to fade away and lose when things start going against them, that will result in a internal disputes and eventually their leaders getting pissed off and leaving (or dying....????), it's a pretty big call. [/nerd] Anyway, Slush is probably right. You're better off comparing clans to regimes/figureheads when it comes to style. Eeekaj 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrone Posted April 23, 2015 Report Share Posted April 23, 2015 Countries these days barely even have external conflicts and when there is a conflict its normally a coalition of nations such as the UN or the US and their allies going in on one Nation so there is no relevant comparison to be made. If you were to go back to eg. WW2 there is more potential for comparison: EoP - Germany - Plainly able to wreck anyone 1v1, the most aggressive tactics and strategy and most experienced warrers together with the most charismatic leaders, regularly decimates whoever stands in their way. Capable of beating nearly all the other parties combined and has a track record of doing so. FO - Soviet Union - A history of being meatshields and sucking up. The Soviets originally had a non-aggression pact with the Nazi's because they knew they would get wrecked by the Germans if they fought over Europe. In the same vein, FO used to suck up to EOP and meatshield in exchange for us protecting them from MM (the FOEOP days). Eventually the Germans decided they'd just take Russia over after France and the rest of Europe gave in so easily, in the same way when FO reopened we decided we'd just annihilate as we'd already slumped Fi so easily. Russia were strong in defending their homeland because of the wintery conditions and the logistical issues of the Nazi's being spread too thin. In the same way that FO is pretty good in clan wars but are weak in the wilderness. Fi - France - Were destroyed by the Nazi's with embarrassing ease and spent the rest of the war contributing nothing more than weak revolutionary action. In the same way that Fi were slumped by EoP with embarrassing ease late last year and since have done nothing but attempt to interfere with the big dogs to no avail. Rd - Great Britain - Just as Britain delayed its intervention in the war as Germany rampaged through Europe, RD have had little to no influence on the action between the above 3 over the last 6 months or so despite making a lot of noise and threats. Tried to help France against Germany but France were decimated too quickly, just as RD tried to help Fi originally against EoP but Fi got slumped too quickly. Perhaps capable of making an impact but its not yet clear, but is plainly scared of Germany and will seek to leech on to whatever allies they can. CP - Italy - For some reason is trying to be Germany. Does everything they can to copy Germany just as CP does everything they can to be EoP, but lack the resources and smarts to really be a superpower. Just as Italy mainly just dealt with Northern Africa in one of the least relevant conflicts of WW2, CP mainly just goes after lilguy clans. TLP - Japan - Having their own side conflict away from the above. Japan were on decent terms with Germany and the Soviets as TLP is with EoP and FO (I think?), and are happy to focus on their own lil conflict. Just as Japan literally carroted China, TLP are doing so to Soup. Soup - China - No leadership or organisation, dominated by a far smaller enemy (Japan/TLP) and tries to suck up to the Soviets (FO). Zu - Australia - Pretty irrelevant, tries. LT - Egypt - No-one cares about them yet somehow they still managed to beat Italy (as LT beat CP in a prep last month). MM - United States - Not involved at the moment but the only nation that could actually beat Germany. You should write a book J-Swag 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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