JeyB Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 5 hours ago, Michael said: @PX was fucking ez btw lmfa0 dogbrown sticky stuff u lost a prep dip after one round lmfa0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lufffy Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 The way its always been Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadows Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 27 minutes ago, Conor McGregor said: Can you please explain why after 1 small incident over something (defenders alway schoose the maps, you have to be cauliflower to think otherwise) sharkbrew want to investigate and get involved, but when its fom continuing the doxing of eop on over 4 different occasions sharkbrew refuse to address it? Tbh I did not know this topic was going to be made in the first place. I am not involved in COTM for the SB staff, my focus is Community Events. My thoughts on the matter is that defenders choose. I know there was a discussion on this and the topic was made to verify the community's thought on the situation. I can't really take sides regarding the EOP/FOE discussion as I am not really up to date with all that happened. Both sides have done things deemed "NH"; it just depends on how clans allow Sharkbrew to get involved on the situation. This is an internal affair between FOE/EOP and we have been told not to get involved in these types of affairs before because of past decisions taken. There are probably other ranks who are up to date with the situation between EOP/FOE which could inform you better on the matter. I do not know if there is a plan to take regarding this subject either. I do have to agree that anything done outside of the game should be addressed, but these things should be struck down by Clan Leaders imo. Clan leaders have full authority over their communities. If a rank allows things like this, just leaves a bad reputation for the future. Makes you seem incompetent as a clan leader when you break under the pressure and lose control of your members or when you endorse NH tactics. Leaders should have the will to strike down in situations like this even if you are losing to an opponent. I am sure Sharkbrew will get involved if Clan Leaders want us to get involved though. At the moment I do not know much about this though. Koed Beastly 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeB Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 Yikes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conor McGregor Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 49 minutes ago, Shadows said: Tbh I did not know this topic was going to be made in the first place. I am not involved in COTM for the SB staff, my focus is Community Events. My thoughts on the matter is that defenders choose. I know there was a discussion on this and the topic was made to verify the community's thought on the situation. I can't really take sides regarding the EOP/FOE discussion as I am not really up to date with all that happened. Both sides have done things deemed "NH"; it just depends on how clans allow Sharkbrew to get involved on the situation. This is an internal affair between FOE/EOP and we have been told not to get involved in these types of affairs before because of past decisions taken. There are probably other ranks who are up to date with the situation between EOP/FOE which could inform you better on the matter. I do not know if there is a plan to take regarding this subject either. I do have to agree that anything done outside of the game should be addressed, but these things should be struck down by Clan Leaders imo. Clan leaders have full authority over their communities. If a rank allows things like this, just leaves a bad reputation for the future. Makes you seem incompetent as a clan leader when you break under the pressure and lose control of your members or when you endorse NH tactics. Leaders should have the will to strike down in situations like this even if you are losing to an opponent. I am sure Sharkbrew will get involved if Clan Leaders want us to get involved though. At the moment I do not know much about this though. Okay so if sv or eop do it they get threatened by sharkbrew but when fom do it it's up to the clan leaders to sort out themselves and sharkbrew dont get involved? So you're saying nothing will happen if eop retaliate in kind or with more force because it's between the clans and sharkbrew can't get involved, ty I'll hold your word for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemons Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 3 hours ago, Shoan said: if this was ub they would finish the round on plat, lose and then demand to redo it LMFAO @Tyendinaga dog shut up you dumb dutchie before I drop kick you out of your wheelchair broccoli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadows Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 Just now, Conor McGregor said: Okay so if sv or eop do it they get threatened by sharkbrew but when fom do it it's up to the clan leaders to sort out themselves and sharkbrew dont get involved? So you're saying nothing will happen if eop retaliate in kind or with more force because it's between the clans and sharkbrew can't get involved, ty I'll hold your word for it I don't really get what you mean by this. The situation with Sv was a leak of database which targeted the community in general. What I am saying is that Sharkbrew will get involved if the people want Sharkbrew to get involved. I gave you my input and my personal opinion. This has nothing to do with Sharkbrew's actual decision. I mentioned that I am not involved in these decisions and that I am not up to date with what happened. Basically, to sum up what I said: My input: You should ask another rank about this as I am not up to date with the situation and I do not know what decisions are being taken. My personal opinion: Leadership should not allow people to take things outside the game or endorse NH actions. Just leaves a stain that can't be wiped off in the clan's history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conor McGregor Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 23 minutes ago, Shadows said: I don't really get what you mean by this. The situation with Sv was a leak of database which targeted the community in general. What I am saying is that Sharkbrew will get involved if the people want Sharkbrew to get involved. I gave you my input and my personal opinion. This has nothing to do with Sharkbrew's actual decision. I mentioned that I am not involved in these decisions and that I am not up to date with what happened. Basically, to sum up what I said: My input: You should ask another rank about this as I am not up to date with the situation and I do not know what decisions are being taken. My personal opinion: Leadership should not allow people to take things outside the game or endorse NH actions. Just leaves a stain that can't be wiped off in the clan's history. Your staff ban or ignore anyone who brings it up now, it's unresolved and the topic by @Kim warned fom about continuing doxing lol. If sharkbrew want a cancer free pure community you better do something about it because the antics of last weekend (fom being camped by 50 tanks) will probably continue until they face repercussions. Sharkbrew have always wanted to be able to take credit for making the community peaceful, how about you start with fom because you have the perfect opportunity to take care of them for their continuous doxing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoan Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 44 minutes ago, Lemons said: shut up you dumb dutchie before I drop kick you out of your wheelchair broccoli loolol look who we have here its mr ancy himself! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemons Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 16 minutes ago, Shoan said: loolol look who we have here its mr ancy himself! Holy brown sticky stuff get an education please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finest Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slushpuppy Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 5 hours ago, Conor McGregor said: Can you please explain why after 1 small incident over something (defenders alway schoose the maps, you have to be cauliflower to think otherwise) sharkbrew want to investigate and get involved, but when its fom continuing the doxing of eop on over 4 different occasions sharkbrew refuse to address it? What an obnoxious thing when we intervened during the FOE doxing of 17s last year. Inspite of the 8 hours worth of conversation that went on during the mediation phase, terms of agreement was broken less than a day later. As such, we are not going to waste our time anymore with immature leaderships who obviously cannot see the implications of their actions. Koed Beastly, موني and Conor McGregor 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 defending clan picks what map they wanna defend on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koed Beastly Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 3 hours ago, slushpuppy said: What an obnoxious thing when we intervened during the FOE doxing of 17s last year. Inspite of the 8 hours worth of conversation that went on during the mediation phase, terms of agreement was broken less than a day later. As such, we are not going to waste our time anymore with immature leaderships who obviously cannot see the implications of their actions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conor McGregor Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, slushpuppy said: What an obnoxious thing when we intervened during the FOE doxing of 17s last year. Inspite of the 8 hours worth of conversation that went on during the mediation phase, terms of agreement was broken less than a day later. As such, we are not going to waste our time anymore with immature leaderships who obviously cannot see the implications of their actions. Thank you for the clarification that sharkbrew are no longer going to involve themselves and/or hold people accountable for actions that regard clans taking things out of the game. If you want something done, gotta do it yourself... edit: shouldn't the clan who broke the terms of agreement a day later be punished by sharkbrew? You've punished people for far less lol and if you try to enforce things with no repercussion, how do you expect anyone to listen? Edited January 17, 2018 by Conor McGregor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slushpuppy Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 26 minutes ago, Conor McGregor said: Thank you for the clarification that sharkbrew are no longer going to involve themselves and/or hold people accountable for actions that regard clans taking things out of the game. If you want something done, gotta do it yourself... edit: shouldn't the clan who broke the terms of agreement a day later be punished by sharkbrew? You've punished people for far less lol and if you try to enforce things with no repercussion, how do you expect anyone to listen? I am sure if I polled it or asked the ambassadors about it, they would vote against any punitive measures for DOXing or DDOSing, but still come crying to us to take action against their opponents while still keeping said scummy individuals for their +1 opts. So out of the interest of neutrality and fairness, we are going to adopt the zybez route by not intervening at all. Don't say Sharkbrew creates the cancer community when your own clan(s) are responsible for all the out of game action. Lenin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALEX Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 On 1/16/2018 at 2:21 AM, Crafted said: Defender has always been able to choose and should continue to be able to choose. Shouldn't try to fix what isn't broken just because 1 broccolied clan threw temper tantrum and cried. this lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanicus Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 Defending chooses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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