Murd Posted June 12, 2015 Report Share Posted June 12, 2015 There may appear to be some inconsistencies with how some topics/posts are dealt with throughout the experiences of SharkBrew eg; attempts at flaming or baiting specific clans and people who are involved with the particular clans dealing with it from their own clan's point of view rather than a neutral moderators' point of view. A quick fix would be to not allow mediators or admins who are a part of a clan being baited to moderate how they feel is fit. So if there was a bait topic, say, "TLP sucks", a staff member like Braden wouldn't be required to moderate it as he may have a connection with the clan being targeted which could in theory cloud his judgement, so someone like Franco or Elver would step in and deal with it how they see fit. Although, if it's something that obviously shouldn't be there (memberboards, ips, irl information) then he would be in the clear to take the action deemed necessary. The same would apply for personal insults or baits towards moderators such as this; In order to keep a fair level of moderating, someone else with the mod powers would check over this to see if it is considered pointless/specifically targeting an individual. This way, a clearer, seemingly less bias direction of moderating can continue to thrive! streetRAT, JoJo, Ram and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram Posted June 12, 2015 Report Share Posted June 12, 2015 i remember those bias eop mods a year ago..........where they at tho? OT: nah but i agree with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destroy Posted June 12, 2015 Report Share Posted June 12, 2015 This is something we already do, we generally don't moderate things that have to deal directly with our own clan, and if we do others are usually involved/asked for their opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkbrew Legend Posted June 12, 2015 Report Share Posted June 12, 2015 For those wondering, this was the topic he was talking about l0l: If you think the clan I'm in had anything to do with me closing that topic then you're kidding yourself. I'd say the moderation is pretty bias free from what I've seen, half the time I make any actions I ask in the staff chan beforehand. If you don't agree with something someone has posted, report the post. This helps mods find it quicker and they won't have to sift through 10 page topics to warn someone. Destroy and You Me At6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronz Posted June 12, 2015 Report Share Posted June 12, 2015 why delete/lock troll topics they're funny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkbrew Legend Posted June 12, 2015 Report Share Posted June 12, 2015 why delete/lock troll topics they're funny Because negative topics like that aren't what we wish to promote in this community. If you can make a post that at least sounds half smart you'll more than likely get away with it, but topics made by anonymous accounts that have blatant flame are just dumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murd Posted June 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2015 For those wondering, this was the topic he was talking about l0l: If you think the clan I'm in had anything to do with me closing that topic then you're kidding yourself. I'd say the moderation is pretty bias free from what I've seen, half the time I make any actions I ask in the staff chan beforehand. If you don't agree with something someone has posted, report the post. This helps mods find it quicker and they won't have to sift through 10 page topics to warn someone. Thanks for making it a little more clear. However one of the points I'm mentioning is that if you need to ask about the actions in the staff channel you should let someone else take action so you won't have the feel of 'bias modding' around. And to be fair this community does thrive around the banter and flaming so some of those topics may not need to be removed considering some of the others we still have floating around (although due to the title and intent that would have been a fair call). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glob Mob Posted June 12, 2015 Report Share Posted June 12, 2015 anybody else hungry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destroy Posted June 12, 2015 Report Share Posted June 12, 2015 Yeah as already said that topic was completely pointless/flame bait, and even though we allow a lot of flame at some point we have to draw a line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLP FLAME UNIT Posted June 12, 2015 Report Share Posted June 12, 2015 dont agree with this bias mods are best for business Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkbrew Legend Posted June 12, 2015 Report Share Posted June 12, 2015 Thanks for making it a little more clear. However one of the points I'm mentioning is that if you need to ask about the actions in the staff channel you should let someone else take action so you won't have the feel of 'bias modding' around. And to be fair this community does thrive around the banter and flaming so some of those topics may not need to be removed considering some of the others we still have floating around (although due to the title and intent that would have been a fair call). Well yeah for sure, I think you'd be surprised about the amount of times something like that actually happens where a staff member asks one from another clan to deal with an issue. Situations like this though where I was the only person online have to be dealt regardless of clan politics. If anyone seriously wants to dispute it there is an appeal ban section or they can even pm an op in #sharkbrew. We try to let as many of those type of topics slide as we can but you need to understand we have to draw the line somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorgito Gutiérrez Posted June 12, 2015 Report Share Posted June 12, 2015 Murd 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sage Posted June 12, 2015 Report Share Posted June 12, 2015 Good topic, with that being said I don't think mediators should be allowed to "banter/flame" such as Braden when he flames supremacy topics.. ARNT they suppose to be the ranks of this site!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkbrew Legend Posted June 12, 2015 Report Share Posted June 12, 2015 Good topic, with that being said I don't think mediators should be allowed to "banter/flame" such as Braden when he flames supremacy topics.. ARNT they suppose to be the ranks of this site!? mods r people 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murd Posted June 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2015 Good topic, with that being said I don't think mediators should be allowed to "banter/flame" such as Braden when he flames supremacy topics.. ARNT they suppose to be the ranks of this site!? That's another point, however you can't restrict them from having fun too, although they do need to remember they hold a position of authority and if they act like the trolls here, we will be sent back to the stone age aka clan warfare!@ But off Braden he's bae Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nICK1 Posted June 12, 2015 Report Share Posted June 12, 2015 God fucking bless lmfao for someone who doesn't clan anymore you care wayyy to much about this, funny thing is aswell I can assure you if this didn't involve fi at all you would have never even cared enough to make this post.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sage Posted June 12, 2015 Report Share Posted June 12, 2015 @@Murd @@BarrageKyle fair enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parm Posted June 12, 2015 Report Share Posted June 12, 2015 leave kyle alone!!! 90% of topics on this site are cancer. if he deletes something it must be pretty retarted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murd Posted June 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2015 God fucking bless lmfao for someone who doesn't clan anymore you care wayyy to much about this, funny thing is aswell I can assure you if this didn't involve fi at all you would have never even cared enough to make this post.. 4»15Thu4/15074:15304:1507 15AM4« * [Fi]Jamz is now known as Jamz It is a generalised topic, not everything is about your clan silly so maybe you should give it a read! I'll forgive you for misunderstanding, you're probably still annoyed they didn't let you and your battlescape buddies have your time to shine vs TLP in f2p yesterday and opted to cancel the event completely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mediator Posted June 12, 2015 Report Share Posted June 12, 2015 For those wondering, this was the topic he was talking about l0l: If you think the clan I'm in had anything to do with me closing that topic then you're kidding yourself. I'd say the moderation is pretty bias free from what I've seen, half the time I make any actions I ask in the staff chan beforehand. If you don't agree with something someone has posted, report the post. This helps mods find it quicker and they won't have to sift through 10 page topics to warn someone. Screenie 2nd topic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nICK1 Posted June 12, 2015 Report Share Posted June 12, 2015 4»15Thu4/15074:15304:1507 15AM4« * [Fi]Jamz is now known as Jamz[/size] It is a generalised topic, not everything is about your clan silly so maybe you should give it a read! I'll forgive you for misunderstanding, you're probably still annoyed they didn't let you and your battlescape buddies have your time to shine vs TLP in f2p yesterday and opted to cancel the event completely.[/size] What are you talking about? Can you stop being so biased plz? Ty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkbrew Legend Posted June 12, 2015 Report Share Posted June 12, 2015 Screenie 2nd topic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coz Posted June 12, 2015 Report Share Posted June 12, 2015 I understand that there will be a "bias" in regards to some things, however, it's called grow the fuck up and be fair. If you can't moderate a forum, how the fuck are you supposed to do anything meaningful in life. brown sticky stuff if I was a mod, I would carrot all clans, including TLP. If you are lenient towards one person you will be lenient towards others. Either be a hard ass and do your job, or gtfo. Just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murd Posted June 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2015 What are you talking about? Can you stop being so biased plz? Ty This is bringing awareness to how the site is being moderated, let the big boys talk on this topic and we'll let you leak your emotions out on the typically troll filled topics, alright? This topic was created for a mature discussion, not mediocre child's play! Godfather 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nICK1 Posted June 12, 2015 Report Share Posted June 12, 2015 This is bringing awareness to how the site is being moderated, let the big boys talk on this topic and we'll let you leak your emotions out on the typically troll filled topics, alright? This topic was created for a mature discussion, not mediocre child's play! Dude it's like you don't even understand how bias you're being right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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