banter [EXPOSED] How much money is RSW making?

[Kim]

Shown what rofl?

 

This entire topic is about "profit making" but there's no proof of any profit being made rofl? In the post made by Kevin it said nothing about using ads in the future to fund the community.

They have paid for a forum Skin/Logo which isn't exactly "cheap" for the average runescape player. They also bought graphics for the awards.

 

This entire topic is just a absolute joke, since slushpuppy has ads and allows people to buy VIP and he never paid anything for their graphics, "I advertised them".

 

You also can't look away from the extremely justin beiber topic he made regarding RSW leaking IP while we all know he's been DDoSing for EoP and leaking IP's for ages.

 

My original comment was about how slushpuppy apparently was making dough. This was before we had those private servers being advertised. The way RSW came about it, he shouldn't have had the google ads up since it was 'for profit'. You're telling me stuff I already knew about RSW which was already paid off from when I was a moderator on there. I was the one who got the gfx artist on top of that. We pay for our graphics. .

 

I'm on my phone so I apologize, my grammar is way off.

[fireSTAFF]

This is going really off topic but you cant outlast me.

 

You are trying to be a smartass for arguing over a line that I never wrote. It was generated with Eclipse.

 

http://i.imgur.com/fMXdoxL.png

 

First of all you are wrong, <?xml and <!DOCTYPE arent tags, they are declarations. Tags have a starting and ending.

 

I will "correct" you, I looked up this double declaration problem and its not wrong. Its not necessary, but its not wrong.

 

https://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/

 

http://i.imgur.com/OR8dXJW.png

 

https://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml11/conformance.html

 

http://i.imgur.com/MTzBwiq.png

 

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1335133/do-i-need-to-declare-xml-on-a-page-using-the-xhtml-doctype

 

http://i.imgur.com/bhUYNXD.png

 

You should spend more time on making sure your argument is correct so you dont look dumb on your own forums.

 

@@slushpuppy respond once you're done with the googling. Just know that winnetou is right.

[No Static]

 

??

 

Not sure what you are trying to prove with this.

 

You are also ripping of clans with the hosting asking double price of a vps server's fee just because they dont know these stuff.

 

LMFAO 

[Brad]

Who cares?

[EV Ice]

Looks like sharkbrew wins again, rsw is fading lmfao ded site

[Furious]

juicy topic

[Nos]

Who cares?

My thoughts exactly. You're giving an irrelevant site that you deem as your rival publicity regardless if its bad. Stop talking about them and let them die their slow and painful death.

[Jon]

SMH. Saw them in IRC trying to bad mouth SharkBrew and trying to get people to their dead website...

[slushpuppy]

This is going really off topic but you cant outlast me.

 

You are trying to be a smartass for arguing over a line that I never wrote. It was generated with Eclipse.

 

http://i.imgur.com/fMXdoxL.png

 

First of all you are wrong, <?xml and <!DOCTYPE arent tags, they are declarations. Tags have a starting and ending.

 

I will "correct" you, I looked up this double declaration problem and its not wrong. Its not necessary, but its not wrong.

 

https://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/

 

http://i.imgur.com/OR8dXJW.png

 

https://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml11/conformance.html

 

http://i.imgur.com/MTzBwiq.png

 

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1335133/do-i-need-to-declare-xml-on-a-page-using-the-xhtml-doctype

 

http://i.imgur.com/bhUYNXD.png

 

You should spend more time on making sure your argument is correct so you dont look dumb on your own forums.

 

Ok it was 2am so I'll admit to that mistake. Delcarations =/= tags

 

Secondly, read the rfc properly and don't take examples off stackoverflow out of context. It may work for your fellow non programming minions, not for me.

 

An XML declaration is not required in all XML documents; however XHTML document authors are strongly encouraged to use XML declarations in all their documents. Such a declaration is required when the character encoding of the document is other than the default UTF-8 or UTF-16

 

Yes it will work with or without the tag, but if your subsequent DTDs are wrong or you fail to add an XHTML declaration, then you can potentially cause a major confusions for the parser down the road.

 

Why add an unnecessary dependency tag?

 

It's like driving without seatbelt.. sure, the car will start and move, but the moment you crash into something unexpected- your ass flies out of the window.

 

 

3rdly, On your own site the first DTD is XML, 2nd DTD is HTML, and the html opening tag is xhtml without specifying the version.

 

 

So which is it?

 

Of course you didn't write the damn thing because you are some IDE fanboy who doesn't understand what he is doing. You probably came from a generation of coding that relied heavily on point and click generation tools for quicker faster better app development grind.

 

 

 

 

And this is not even the only issue. If you were really that up to date with web development, then you realize that there is a growing trend to separate presentation logic from content.

 

Why? because it would be then easier to modify templates without touching the content generation. It looks like in your code that you simply printf'd the database content into a <td>.

 

What if I wanted change the table layout? Or throw an error if there is no data found? Mixing presentation and content logic together makes only harder for yourself

 

 

Else you get dumb output like that 1 above.

[Braden]

i'm just glad that i owned winnetou in my response cus scared to quote 

 

now continue your discussion

[Peace seeker]

idc

 

came 4 pc

[Blue]

Damn those essays up there

[Holiday]

[Winnetou]

Ok it was 2am so I'll admit to that mistake. Delcarations =/= tags

 

Secondly, read the rfc properly and don't take examples off stackoverflow out of context. It may work for your fellow non programming minions, not for me.

 

An XML declaration is not required in all XML documents; however XHTML document authors are strongly encouraged to use XML declarations in all their documents. Such a declaration is required when the character encoding of the document is other than the default UTF-8 or UTF-16

 

Yes it will work with or without the tag, but if your subsequent DTDs are wrong or you fail to add an XHTML declaration, then you can potentially cause a major confusions for the parser down the road.

 

Why add an unnecessary dependency tag?

 

It's like driving without seatbelt.. sure, the car will start and move, but the moment you crash into something unexpected- your ass flies out of the window.

 

 

3rdly, On your own site the first DTD is XML, 2nd DTD is HTML, and the html opening tag is xhtml without specifying the version.

 

 

So which is it?

First you link me reference links to prove I am wrong and now you are saying these references are incorrect? LMFAO

 

It says the xml declaration is not required but its strongly encouraged even if its the default. If the encoding is not default then its required. So there is nothing wrong leaving the xml declaration there. Dont come up with cauliflower driving example lol.

 

I didnt fail to add the xhtml declaration (Eclipse didnt), nothing causes major confusion here. Do you think Eclipse plugin developers would not know about how to correctly define an xhtml file? Do you think you are smarter than them?

 

Stackoverlfow has decent people unlike you, who would correct any wrong statements. But if you are skeptic, lets forget about that, just read the w3 references, take a step back and think about how cauliflower you are.

 

Of course you didn't write the damn thing because you are some IDE fanboy who doesn't understand what he is doing. You probably came from a generation of coding that relied heavily on point and click generation tools for quicker faster better app development grind.

Sorry, only tomatos use notepad for java web development and type down an xhtml skeleton. I came from an educated new generation that use all the tools that save the time of the development. Unlike programmers of 80s who are still coding in notepad and compiling in cmd for java for example.

 

And this is not even the only issue. If you were really that up to date with web development, then you realize that there is a growing trend to separate presentation logic from content.

 

Why? because it would be then easier to modify templates without touching the content generation. It looks like in your code that you simply printf'd the database content into a <td>.

 

What if I wanted change the table layout? Or throw an error if there is no data found? Mixing presentation and content logic together makes only harder for yourself

 

 

Else you get dumb output like that 1 above.

You are trying hard with this but clearly you dont know anything about JSF. There are no issues here, the only issue here is you "losing this fight".

 

The presentation logic and content are separated correctly. It would be hella easy to edit the layout of the table. The "bug" you are showing in the picture was not intended, I just didnt bother adding a case for it, since no one should be typing up a link themselves, all clans have clickable links. When you type a non existent clan name in the url the last cached state will show up.

 

Here is a tutorial for you:

 

http://www.mkyong.com/jsf2/jsf-2-datatable-example/

 

Your kind of thinking proves exactly that you have no education at all and you are a self taught php nerd thinking you are a pro web developer now. Correct me if I am wrong.

[Winnetou]

i'm just glad that i owned winnetou in my response cus scared to quote 

 

now continue your discussion

Sorry your posts were kinda irrelevant/weak so I didnt bother to reply.

 

 

Honestly, pretty disgusting.

 

It's the good old banter where people said slushpuppy has made SB to only profit from but it's the complete opposite whereas RSWF's intentions are clear. Slushpuppy's hosting of sites, hooks and overall influence on clans has helped the community and many clans to have an opportunity to open. This website has yet to create or improve our community and realistically should give up by now, they have literally pissed their money away on a website that will never be successful. In the few months they've been live, they've managed to create a system that Sharkbrew implemented many years ago.

 

Honestly, that's life @@Winnetou.

 

Don't know how to fix an issue with your car? Take it to a mechanic and you get charged a price but if you had the knowledge, you could've potentially fixed it for free or a lot less than what the mechanic charged.

Somebody doesn't know how to drive? They call an uber or taxi, get charged a price but if they had their own license, they could've potentially saved money. (Excluding the car price =p =p)

Somebody doesn't know how to host a site? They find somebody who can.

 

See where I'm getting at? Slushpuppy doesn't charge a ridiculous price, it may only come across as ridiculous because you do know cheaper methods but you have the knowledge of what to do whereas some don't or even have time to bother with it.

These are in contrast with each other. If Slush were truly helping out the pure community, he would not charge a monthly fee for his help. Hosting has a monthly fee I know but the extra these clans are paying is a profit for Slush every month. It is just a business for him he doesnt care brown sticky stuff about helping clans out.

 

Lets say you were a lawyer and your friend needed help with a decision making. Would you charge him too the same price you charge your clients?

[slushpuppy]

First you link me reference links to prove I am wrong and now you are saying these references are incorrect? LMFAO

 

It says the xml declaration is not required but its strongly encouraged even if its the default. If the encoding is not default then its required. So there is nothing wrong leaving the xml declaration there. Dont come up with cauliflower driving example lol.

 

I didnt fail to add the xhtml declaration (Eclipse didnt), nothing causes major confusion here. Do you think Eclipse plugin developers would not know about how to correctly define an xhtml file? Do you think you are smarter than them?

 

https://validator.w3.org/nu/?doc=http%3A%2F%2Fsharkbrew.com%3A8080%2Fladder%2Fclan.html%3Fname%3Dsdfsdf

 

 

I thought you said you generated this from an XHTML template? Why does W3c think it is HTML? LMFAO.

 

Yes sure, keep blindly following template examples without using your brain.

 

You are trying hard with this but clearly you dont know anything about JSF.

 

The presentation logic and content are separated correctly. It would be hella easy to edit the layout of the table. The "bug" you are showing in the picture was not intended, I just didnt bother adding a case for it, since no one should be typing up a link themselves, all clans have clickable links. When you type a non existent clan name in the url the last cached state will show up.

 

Here is a tutorial for you:

 

http://www.mkyong.com/jsf2/jsf-2-datatable-example/

 

This kind of thinking proves exactly that you have no education at all and you are a self taught php nerd thinking you are a pro web developer now.

 

I don't need to know JSF. CGI-bin/PHP is scalable enough and I don't need to rely on fancy templating tools like a broccolied Java developer

 

Showing me links doesn't prove anything. Lets see a copy of your code because your source code is fucking hideous.

 

Of course it is unintended.. that is why it is a fucking bug. You do realize that depending correct user input without feedback is a terrible programming practice?

 

Keep replying winnie, am just giving you a real life lesson of developing applications for the real world, not just for your school homework.

[debb]

RSW is a place where people from different clans pretend to like each other

 

/end

[Winnetou]

https://validator.w3.org/nu/?doc=http%3A%2F%2Fsharkbrew.com%3A8080%2Fladder%2Fclan.html%3Fname%3Dsdfsdf

 

 

I thought you said you generated this from an XHTML template? Why does W3c think it is HTML? LMFAO.

 

Yes sure, keep blindly following template examples without using your brain.

 

 

I don't need to know JSF. CGI-bin/PHP is scalable enough and I don't need to rely on fancy templating tools like a broccolied Java developer

 

Showing me links doesn't prove anything. Lets see a copy of your code because your source code is fucking hideous.

 

Of course it is unintended.. that is why it is a fucking bug. You do realize that depending correct user input without feedback is a terrible programming practice?

 

Keep replying winnie, am just giving you a real life lesson of developing applications for the real world, not just for your school homework.

Template is xhtml, generated is html. The xml declaration stays in the generated for some reason. I didnt follow any template examples, just linked that one for you to understand. And yes you need to know what is JSF if you are trying to flame me. Its not a fancy templating tool, its a framework.

 

http://i.imgur.com/Q27rd1N.png

 

No need for your lessons, I dont feel like you should be tutoring anyone with your narrow mindset.

[slushpuppy]

Template is xhtml, generated is html. The xml declaration stays in the generated for some reason.

 

Read that to yourself and ask yourself how broccolied that sounds.

 

If the template is XHTML, the least they could do is create the correct XHTML DTD after the XML opening tag.

 

 

 

And yes you need to know what is JSF if you are trying to flame me. Its not a fancy templating tool, its a framework.

 

http://i.imgur.com/Q27rd1N.png

 

No need for your lessons, I dont feel like you should be tutoring anyone with your narrow mindset.

 

A person who 100% unquestionably believes in his tools inspite being show evidence what it produces HTML markup instead of XHTML?

 

A person who chooses JSF over php when developing for a client who ask for a ladder to be integrated with his PHP based forums, which resulted in a half baked ladder system that doesn't even have SSO?

 

 

 

You calling me narrow minded? Haha.

[slushpuppy]

 

Sorry your posts were kinda irrelevant/weak so I didnt bother to reply.

 

 

 

These are in contrast with each other. If Slush were truly helping out the pure community, he would not charge a monthly fee for his help. Hosting has a monthly fee I know but the extra these clans are paying is a profit for Slush every month. It is just a business for him he doesnt care brown sticky stuff about helping clans out.

 

Lets say you were a lawyer and your friend needed help with a decision making. Would you charge him too the same price you charge your clients?

 

 

I am delivering almost enterprise-level DDOS protection to all my clans for a mere $15 a month. Ask Fatality, CD, RSW how much they are paying for their ddos protection. My protection is similar, and in some rare cases even better than the protection they are paying for.

[Winnetou]

Read that to yourself and ask yourself how broccolied that sounds.

 

If the template is XHTML, the least they could do is create the correct XHTML DTD after the XML opening tag.

 

 

 

 

A person who 100% unquestionably believes in his tools inspite being show evidence what it produces HTML markup instead of XHTML?

 

A person who chooses JSF over php when developing for a client who ask for a ladder to be integrated with his PHP based forums, which resulted in a half baked ladder system that doesn't even have SSO?

 

 

 

You calling me narrow minded? Haha.

Its still called XML declaration, and read my previous posts, there is nothing to correct there.

 

I wasnt asked to make an integrated ladder, I was asked to make a ladder site. I am learning java ee and this was just a practise for me, I would not have took the job on making an ipboard plugin. I dont have time for fucking around in php.

 

And yes you are really narrow minded, instead of googling up what JSF actually is you would keep comparing it to php templating and say incorrect statements.

[Ryannn]

@@slushpuppy just beg @@Winnetou to come make your site look good instead of this garbage.

[slushpuppy]

Its still called XML declaration

 

Yes and I should have known that but I was 2 am.

 

 

read my previous posts, there is nothing to correct there.

 

It is not a trivial matter at all. Incorrect document definition can lead to adverse consequences such as incorrect page rendering, it is most obvious esp if you were developing for cross browser compatibility.

 

I wasnt asked to make an integrated ladder, I was asked to make a ladder site. I am learning java ee and this was just a practise for me, I would not have took the job on making an ipboard plugin. I dont have time for fucking around in php.

 

You have alot of arrogance for a kid who is still paying for his knowledge.

[Cody9204]

@@slushpuppy i'm dead lmao

 

[Winnetou]

Yes and I should have known that but I was 2 am.

 

 

 

It is not a trivial matter at all. Incorrect document definition can lead to adverse consequences such as incorrect page rendering, it is most obvious esp if you were developing for cross browser compatibility.

 

 

You have alot of arrogance for a kid who is still paying for his knowledge.

You was 2 am? You said that yesterday too.

 

Okay.

 

What are you talking about?