Ryan.. Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 cp was the only clan to def on plat every other clan defends in classic anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erase Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 cpppppppppppppppppppp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamer Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 I defend on any map i want, and sharkbrew wont decide a def cap for me either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iObsession Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 4 hours ago, Whoppa said: This topic just because IR has braindead ranks sigh lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Tyler Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 pkri all rounds btw Ibra 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royce Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 Goodluck IR, may the almighty be with u Inshallah Ibra 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkrtSkrt Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 0 ask UB closed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenin Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 Guys & girls. As the lead staff on COTM I already made it clear that clans should always be given freedom when deciding rules etc. and we should not interfere much like who attacks first. The reason for this topic is to get YOUR opinions. Thats it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pillow Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 It’s always been that defending clan chooses map, it should stay that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBean Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 Defenders can choose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotguy Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 all rounds pkri, maps and other rules can be agreed between ranks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 @PX was fucking ez btw Gelsey, wuu2, Ibra and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fazing Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 should be left up to the clans nothing wrong with defender picking map. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aw panic lol Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 ofcourse clan who def , they choose dont fuck rules up. Fuck these new people who dont know nothing about clanning and cw. osrs and clanning is already fucked up enough tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Dete Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 Defender choses although 6 hours ago, Madguy said: In all honesty, this should be standardized, the more you simulate same circumstances for clans to defend in the fairer it gets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evan Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 Here is a better question because there is always gray in this area. Who gets to decide to attack first? Is it north attacks always? Clan who hopped? Sometimes you get other leaderships pressuring that they want to attack first and you just go with it to avoid drama. This prep was left purely up to chance in terms of north side attacking round 1 so IR defended since we got the south side. Could we have just left the portal and said, oh we got south so we defend, re chall cause we want to defend on Plat? wuu2 and Gelsey 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trajan Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 clans should choose everything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trajan Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 Just now, Evan said: Here is a better question because there is always gray in this area. Who gets to decide to attack first? Is it north attacks always? Clan who hopped? Sometimes you get other leaderships pressuring that they want to attack first and you just go with it to avoid drama. This prep was left purely up to chance in terms of north side attacking round 1 so IR defended since we got the south side. Could we have just left the portal and said, oh we got south so we defend, re chall cause we want to defend on Plat? The first person to click accept on 2nd screen gets North, it's not random and it's simple enough to communicate with the other clan and decide who is attacking first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evan Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 Just now, Trajan said: The first person to click accept on 2nd screen gets North, it's not random and it's simple enough to communicate with the other clan and decide who is attacking first. I know this but it definitely isn't 'simple' enough to communicate who attacks first. A lot of clans love to attack first as you have a slight advantage and can hold momentum into the next round if you win. I've dealt with other leaderships who insist they attack first and can only have it their way, how is that fair at all? What if I want to attack first and some stubborn official isn't having it? I have to bend my knee to the guy just to avoid any further delay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyendinaga Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 9 minutes ago, Evan said: Here is a better question because there is always gray in this area. Who gets to decide to attack first? Is it north attacks always? Clan who hopped? Sometimes you get other leaderships pressuring that they want to attack first and you just go with it to avoid drama. This prep was left purely up to chance in terms of north side attacking round 1 so IR defended since we got the south side. Could we have just left the portal and said, oh we got south so we defend, re chall cause we want to defend on Plat? North portal is always given to the second clan to accept the second screen options, so no, it's not fair to say north attacks when it's possible to sit second screen until someone clicks first out of boredom. It's been discussed that the clan with the min and who hops on time could be given the attacking round but for the most part it's ultimately a decision to be made between the two leaders. There is no chance when it comes to north side attacking so your hypothetical is moot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trajan Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 Just now, Evan said: I know this but it definitely isn't 'simple' enough to communicate who attacks first. A lot of clans love to attack first as you have a slight advantage and can hold momentum into the next round if you win. I've dealt with other leaderships who insist they attack first and can only have it their way, how is that fair at all? What if I want to attack first and some stubborn official isn't having it? I have to bend my knee to the guy just to avoid any further delay? I've never understood people that insist attacking first is a big advantage tbh. There's a couple ways to deal with that. Either refuse to bend and force them to defend, or negotiate who attacks first when you set the prep up, include it in the rules just like you would min opts, combat caps, or defence caps. That way any argument is dealt with before the prep starts and there is no delay. Lee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evan Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, Tyendinaga said: North portal is always given to the second clan to accept the second screen options, so no, it's not fair to say north attacks when it's possible to sit second screen until someone clicks first out of boredom. It's been discussed that the clan with the min and who hops on time could be given the attacking round but for the most part it's ultimately a decision to be made between the two leaders. There is no chance when it comes to north side attacking so your hypothetical is moot Goes back to my other comment of dealing with stubborn leaderships only wanting it their way. 2 minutes ago, Trajan said: I've never understood people that insist attacking first is a big advantage tbh. There's a couple ways to deal with that. Either refuse to bend and force them to defend, or negotiate who attacks first when you set the prep up, include it in the rules just like you would min opts, combat caps, or defence caps. That way any argument is dealt with before the prep starts and there is no delay. It all sounds great, but sometimes it is not that easy. Also what maps are off limits to choose to defend on? Can some spastic pick the singles map and turn it into a 1v1 fest? again, lack of standardization. I can go drill and do inners on turrets or some random for weeks, you think clan B is going to have the same knowledge of said map? I don't see how that can be fair. Also in P2P preps, can I choose to defend on classic? Or is it default plat all 3 rounds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Lesnar Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 why fix whats not broken? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyendinaga Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 56 minutes ago, Evan said: Goes back to my other comment of dealing with stubborn leaderships only wanting it their way. It all sounds great, but sometimes it is not that easy. Also what maps are off limits to choose to defend on? Can some spastic pick the singles map and turn it into a 1v1 fest? again, lack of standardization. I can go drill and do inners on turrets or some random for weeks, you think clan B is going to have the same knowledge of said map? I don't see how that can be fair. Also in P2P preps, can I choose to defend on classic? Or is it default plat all 3 rounds? Px had every right to defend on plat, though, and IR left. People aren't scratching their heads because they don't like IR, they're doing so because Px has every right to choose their defending map and you didn't give them that. They could have picked Soggy fucking Swamp. You can choose to defend on classic. You can choose any map that is entirely multi zone to defend on. Plat is default just because freeze mechanics make line of sight so valuable. Lemons, Salso, Satans and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colly Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 Clans should be rewarded if they practice defending on certain maps in my personal opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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