Kim Posted August 21, 2021 Report Share Posted August 21, 2021 Introduction Over the past few months the pure community has continued its drive in a downward spiral. Most of the current clans have used mains at some point in the past year or two. Accounting this summer specifically, the date Shadows and I became active again, Rage and Zenith have had periods of using mains against their foes. Regardless of how or why these mains were present, it is evident that they were used to get an advantage over their opponents. The Sharkbrew Staff Team has been working hard to assist the community as mediators and developed an Ambassador Dispute System that is available to all clans. Although not perfect, it has allowed clan ambassadors to compile and provide evidence of how these mains are used to grab advantageous positions. We are working on a system where Clan Ambassadors can hold each other accountable while we work to provide support to some of the leading figures in our scene. Because of Sharkbrew wanting to be a “Clan First” platform, we held a vote where Zenith and Rage were the only 2 clans to score a positive percentage when allowing all clans to vote in regards to main involvement. Because of this, Sharkbrew opened a dispute for these two clans which were heavily disputed. Evidence for and against both clans was provided by a multitude of clan ambassadors, and after the evidence was provided, Sharkbrew compiled it all to present our decision-making process here. This is also to provide the community with transparency behind the decisions taken for this Dispute Process. We have a tough task as a community to resolve the current main situation that plagues our scene. We want to remind everyone that the people who are responsible for this scene are the clan leaders and ambassadors who continue to have mains on standby for the use of getting an advantage on their foes. Including the abuse of including main clans into the mix for a way in and out. We will always work hard to provide as much support as we can, but fixing our scene is the responsibility of Clan Ambassadors. Be accountable for your actions. Zenith & The Dispute System Results - This Past Weekend Trips & Midweeks (PKRIS) Midweeks (PKRIs.) Zenith has used multiple mains during PKRIs against multiple pure clans including Fatality, Onslaught and Rage. They have sometimes rushed with Apex with their Apex being their own mains as well. This has been happening for over a month during the time, we have mediated the clans. Zenith during a vote, voted on the following question "if PKRIs should be counted as equal as weekends?" voted No. Which exclaims volumes of where they are at with their own usage of mains during the week. Last Weekend Zenith has attempted to hide their mains the best they can, unlike their counterpart. The usage of mains of their own and also collaborating with a main clan to shadow them over the last few weeks. Majority of the pure community already knows this. But as a platform, we have to make the acknowledgement. Rage & The Dispute System Results - This Past Weekend & Midweeks (PKRIS.) Last Weekend As mediators, we have to review every evidence before presenting it to the public on this scale. We acknowledge that the Apex, Foe, and Zenith alliance all teamed on Rage with outside forces(main clan and their personal mains onto Rage.) Rage/Rev & Zenith/Rot fought against each other for quite some time over the past Sunday. Apex has tried to accuse Rage of using mains on them. But, they had every option to exclude themselves from this main infested area. But, chose to stay snipe and include themselves for a good hour of the fight. Catching up to current week's PKRIs I caught up with a BP official and they said that they started off with pures. You will see in a lot of the footage, mains were used across the map with both alliances during a crash-fest. The following day, Apex crashed a clean 1v1 between Rage and Terror all on mains. Alliances During our dispute process, we taken great note of clans trying to sabotage others by bringing their own mains against the clans in question and sniping them while the clans in question already have coats of mains fighting other mains. We acknowledge that both sides of the alliances are sick of the state of the community but we also have to remind the community and its members that this goes far more than just the clans but the additions of the communication between Pures & Mains. If Clan Ambassadors such as Apex's and others want us to take harder actions against clans, they must stop helping people who are also being disputed for the same subject with the usage of mains and forcefully involving themselves in main chaos. The enablement of involving main clans and planning with them will never be the solution of the pure community getting back its on its feet. It will only continue reaching a certain demise that we witnessed back in 2014. (Almost all clans closed.) Although, these pure leaderships wanted to see a scene without mains earlier this summer, it keeps moving away from that goal from their fruition. Penalties Both will be punished for a two week period. Rage Accounting for the alliance against Rage and how they have communicated their actions against them. It is clear that they wanted to abuse the new system into their favor. Rage is forced into a spot to use mains against an actual main clan + pures using mains against them. The loose cannon if a pure clan decides to snipe Rage while they have mass mains, if they expect that these mains may not hit them, they are out of their mind and should involve themselves with the rest of the pure community. Rage will NOT be allowed to take part within the upcoming tournament which was halted due to this difficult situation between the pure community and these two clans. They will remain on a probation period for the time-being. Zenith Accounting for what their collaborations with main clans and their own mains against Fatality, Onslaught, Legacy and co. Our system allowed for these individuals to be able to defend themselves but they went out of their way during PKRIs and last weekend to use their own mains. They will be moved to the banned stage. What this means during this two week period: All Sharkbrew Wilderness topics will be locked with no exceptions. The following segment, or a combination similar to this segment. will be added as the only comment. "Successful Dispute and Failed Probationary Period. This Clan has failed its Probationary Period and is experiencing a 3 Week suspension for using Mains or collaborating with Main Clans to attack other Pure Clans." The clan will not have any points for COTM/WCOTM. Automatic DQ in any ongoing Sharkbrew Community Event or Sharkbrew Tournament. The Clan will not be allowed to participate/sign up for any upcoming Sharkbrew Events or Sharkbrew Tournaments. Clans will have limited representation in Ambassador section What Comes Next I have acknowledged with both alliances to try to work together with the clans in question. Some have not. Some don't want to due to the past shenanigans. Those who are only trying elongate for the community to continue being this way, this current stretch will not allow any sort of growth for their own individual clans. This will not end here if this current Pure Community does not hold each other accountable. Rage's side will continue to communicate with us as they have been without sugarcoating topics. Rage will also be moved to the banned staged if they violate any of the dispute system guidelines. In terms of the Zenith ban, their ban will be reviewed on September 4th, 2021. If this continues in this direction, we will scrap this dispute system and allow the alliances to continue killing themselves. Sharkbrew Thoughts The pure community simply is in shambles. Everyone knows that the community is divided into three parts. Two sides are divided between two separate alliance. The frontmen are Rage/Co & Zenith/Co. The third part is the inclusion of main clans who are in contact with the Pure Community for their own biddings. Throughout my own research and dabbling before taking Overseer, everyone attempted to lie about their involvements with the main clans. Most of the pure clan ranks are involved in group chats with RoT & Rev at this current time. As mediators of the community, all we can do is inform and enforce our systems. It is up to the community to hold their clan ranks accountable for the state of the community and the actions of. The future of the Pure Community will only continue to decline if the narrative keeps changing of who is bad and who isn't. The narrative needs to be centralized on how can the Pure Community be empowered without the involvement of main clans and teams and how to exclude both sides from using mains. Votes by Ranks and reasoning behind the vote: Spoiler Spoiler 1- Shadows: Ban or Split Punishments Reasoning: Although I believe Zenith have had justifications for some of their weekend actions, I believe that their involvement in Midweek PKRIs with mains and their mains against clans like Legacy provide a good sample-size of not communicating with opposing clans. In no way did their Sunday fight vs Rage affect this result. I believe that Zenith also failed the following parameters from the dispute process: 1. Clans must take the necessary steps, in collaboration with the rest of the pure community, to resolve issues relating to them bringing mains. 2. Clan must lay out conclusive evidence of why they brought/bring mains and provide alternatives on how to improve the situation in collaboration with the rest of the Pure Community For these first two, Zenith never accepted the voting by other Clan Ambassadors regarding main involvement. This comes even as some of the “alliance” members mentioned their continued main usage. 3. As can be seen below, fights vs mains are not being counted for this decision. Disputed Clans will be allowed to defend themselves if a Main Team or Main Clan decides to try and attack them in a Singles setting. 4. Failure to do the above, 100% vote by other ambassadors, or escalation of main usage. Because of a failure to do the above and an escalation of the main usage as can be seen this weekend, my vote can be seen above. 2- Kim - Personally, I want to be able to associate myself with what is best for the community. Everything that Shadows stated is where I align with. Rage worked with us and showed patience to provide evidence and took the time to demonstrate their intentions. I can acknowledge their past doings as being disruptive and needing some sort of justice. This system was meant to be a turning page from the last few seasons and give clans opportunities to change their act. It does not help us as mediators that alliances are trying to involve themselves with Rage, when they were already fighting a main war on Sunday and on Saturday being hit by the main clan for the majority of the trip with Zenith. I spoke to the majority of the clans letting them know not to provoke and they went ahead and did it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royce Posted August 21, 2021 Report Share Posted August 21, 2021 dont crying. Edgi, Grey Wolf, Killer Kamal and 5 others 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Posted August 21, 2021 Report Share Posted August 21, 2021 You're killing Sharkbrew Zenith E-Girl and Grey Wolf 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wars. Posted August 21, 2021 Report Share Posted August 21, 2021 hmmmmmmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SP Sean Posted August 21, 2021 Report Share Posted August 21, 2021 Right..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deserie Posted August 21, 2021 Report Share Posted August 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, Savage said: You're killing Sharkbrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moleman Posted August 21, 2021 Report Share Posted August 21, 2021 LMFAO. Yes, blame zenith for using SOME mains to fight shitty main clans that try and rag us on weekends. Same with rage. This topic is the most retarded shit ever, EVERY SINGLE CLAN uses SOME kind of mains. Not to mention the mass mains used by legacy, onslaught and others. Good fucking job on encouraging other clans to go even more cancer. Instead of adressing the real problem, main clans going to the pure scene. (Even though clans like revenant are littearly dogshit raggers with 0 impact ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trump Posted August 21, 2021 Report Share Posted August 21, 2021 niggas make 107 combat accounts that are completely useless then be like WHAT WHY ARE MAINS HITTING ME????? Finest, Yoeshua and keefn 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edgi Posted August 21, 2021 Report Share Posted August 21, 2021 hehehehe xd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kim Posted August 21, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Moleman said: LMFAO. Yes, blame zenith for using SOME mains to fight shitty main clans that try and rag us on weekends. Same with rage. This topic is the most retarded shit ever, EVERY SINGLE CLAN uses SOME kind of mains. Not to mention the mass mains used by legacy, onslaught and others. Good fucking job on encouraging other clans to go even more cancer. Instead of adressing the real problem, main clans going to the pure scene. Sharkbrew Thoughts The pure community simply is in shambles. Everyone knows that the community is divided into three parts. Two sides are divided between two separate alliance. The frontmen are Rage/Co & Zenith/Co. The third part is the inclusion of main clans who are in contact with the Pure Community for their own biddings. Throughout my own research and dabbling before taking Overseer, everyone attempted to lie about their involvements with the main clans. Most of the pure clan ranks are involved in group chats with RoT & Rev at this current time. As mediators of the community, all we can do is inform and enforce our systems. It is up to the community to hold their clan ranks accountable for the state of the community and the actions of. The future of the Pure Community will only continue to decline if the narrative keeps changing of who is bad and who isn't. The narrative needs to be centralized on how can the Pure Community be empowered without the involvement of main clans and teams and how to exclude both sides from using mains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paige Posted August 21, 2021 Report Share Posted August 21, 2021 LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Edgi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kim Posted August 21, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Moleman said: LMFAO. Yes, blame zenith for using SOME mains to fight shitty main clans that try and rag us on weekends. Same with rage. This topic is the most retarded shit ever, EVERY SINGLE CLAN uses SOME kind of mains. Not to mention the mass mains used by legacy, onslaught and others. Good fucking job on encouraging other clans to go even more cancer. Instead of adressing the real problem, main clans going to the pure scene. Yourself included, you have to acknowledge the shadowing of Rot with Zenith and the PKRIs. Failure of acknowledging this will only continue to have the other side to retaliate and yourselves being "blindsided" Grey Wolf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruta Posted August 21, 2021 Report Share Posted August 21, 2021 didnt read, all i know im killing zenith today xd Jus10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Posted August 21, 2021 Report Share Posted August 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Paige said: LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moleman Posted August 21, 2021 Report Share Posted August 21, 2021 Just now, Kim said: Sharkbrew Thoughts The pure community simply is in shambles. Everyone knows that the community is divided into three parts. Two sides are divided between two separate alliance. The frontmen are Rage/Co & Zenith/Co. The third part is the inclusion of main clans who are in contact with the Pure Community for their own biddings. Throughout my own research and dabbling before taking Overseer, everyone attempted to lie about their involvements with the main clans. Most of the pure clan ranks are involved in group chats with RoT & Rev at this current time. As mediators of the community, all we can do is inform and enforce our systems. It is up to the community to hold their clan ranks accountable for the state of the community and the actions of. The future of the Pure Community will only continue to decline if the narrative keeps changing of who is bad and who isn't. The narrative needs to be centralized on how can the Pure Community be empowered without the involvement of main clans and teams and how to exclude both sides from using mains. Ye, i have no idea what you are actually trying to accomplish here lmfao. Nobody cares about what you washed up non-clanners try and enforce. Just go back a year or two, when you tried to ban CD from sharkbrew. Nothing changed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2hitu2lumb Posted August 21, 2021 Report Share Posted August 21, 2021 N Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Canny pk Posted August 21, 2021 Report Share Posted August 21, 2021 The pure scene is so fucking dog shit it’s unreal. FireBlackAsh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FUCK NOX Posted August 21, 2021 Report Share Posted August 21, 2021 what kinda victim topic is this lmaoooooooooooooo Jus10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l3reed Posted August 21, 2021 Report Share Posted August 21, 2021 HAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHHAHA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canny pk Posted August 21, 2021 Report Share Posted August 21, 2021 Nobody cares about your stupid tournaments, it’s hardly a punishment. The issues still remains in the wilderness. pure scene is dead, not sure why everyone just doesn’t go main tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proccy Posted August 21, 2021 Report Share Posted August 21, 2021 RAGE FUCKING PUNISHED WHAHAAHAHAH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jus10 Posted August 21, 2021 Report Share Posted August 21, 2021 Didn’t read but clan ambassadors won’t hold each other accountable (fo/apex/z/sup) cause they’re all cry baby losers irl lol. Rage hits z/apex with mains because z/apex use mains and cry because they can’t with wirh or without them(losers irl and in game) & Sb mods will cater to cry babies cause they’re trying to conform to the new standards of “everyone gets a trophy, we don’t wanna hurt other people’s feelings” which brings me to my next point, the word “ginger” is banned in Sb discord, who’s the crybaby ass red head loser that decided that. Grey Wolf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orgasms Posted August 21, 2021 Report Share Posted August 21, 2021 rage and fi been using mains since 1998 Edgi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beltholder Posted August 21, 2021 Report Share Posted August 21, 2021 RAGE WINS AGAIN LMAO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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